I directly am responding to how happy you seem to be that the Russian Government is directly meddling in an American election.

Just how do know know this?  Aside from liberal operatives and scorned members of the GOP who is saying this?  The FBI? The CIA? ATF? YMCA? Facebook?

CU_Tigers4life - 27 July 2016 04:50 PM

I directly am responding to how happy you seem to be that the Russian Government is directly meddling in an American election.

Just how do know know this?  Aside from liberal operatives and scorned members of the GOP who is saying this?  The FBI? The CIA? ATF? YMCA? Facebook?

He got a computer engineering degree from Costco or Wikipedia. I forget which one he said. I think George Will was the Dean, so you should be able to look it up.

I can’t resist…It is too bad I can’t post images in the board:

https://i.imgflip.com/w3d7d.jpg

When did a major party try to stop its nominee???? Try this year dude. Where have you been?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html?

It didn’t have to be exposed…they did it in public. The difference is that people like you voted the guy to the nomination against the better judgement of those who know more than the average guy and over in the Dem world the guy they didn’t like, who isnt a democrat lost in the primary anyway.

Ah yes, you expose why you are Trump supporters. You attempt to discredit anything that doesn’t fit what you want to believe even if those people are people who have impeccable credentials of the political philosophy you claim to be for. Maybe we can get some more definitions for ad hominem arguments on here…since neither of you obviously read them.

I suggest you look up the definition of truthiness. It will help to explain you own worldview since you can’t see it yourself. But hey, every demagogue needs well meaning rubes to fall for their tricks.

Speaking of something else that neither of you two read, I suggest you check out the Wall Street Journal editorial page today. It is such a liberal rag since George Will is such a traitor. Of course it is complete BS also. Definitely not up to the standards of such intellectuals as Scott Baio, Mike Tyson or Antonio Sabato Jr.

Also watch Idiocracy since you two obviously don’t get the jokes I make. It might hit a little close to home though so be warned. You might feel the urge to lash out on Twitter like your hero does.

As to knowing about the ties of Heir Trump to Vlad? Since George Will and the Wall Street Journal aren’t “Real Americans” check out the Trump kids. Just ask them, they will tell you themselves.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

Voltaire said “Those who can be made to believe absurdities, can be made to commit atrocities.”
Congrats on falling for the confidence act.

I’ll throw a Quote just for you from Shakespeare:

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”

My friend you are definitely a serial complainer.  We have mentioned several times in conversation that the fix to keep Trump out was in. I can’t speak for others but I was pretty clear that Trump was not “my guy” but is the last one standing and the will of the people broke through the gauntlet of the GOP establishment.  If you read some of the posts, I was on the verge of changing my status to independent had Trump been screwed by the party.  Not because he was “my guy” but because the people’s voice matters. 

I have also noticed that you don’t seem to been in favor on anything but is against everything. All you like to do attack.  Why don’t you share with us your wisdom and educate us simple folk….

Yep…you are damn right I am not in favor of the guy you apparently are gonna vote for. Some of us have standards. I have been pretty clear what I am for…you on the other hand will literally vote for an orangoutang if they have an R behind their name. Congratulations on your willingness to stand for party over principle.

I love it when anecdotes reinforce the statistical trend:
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2012/nov/05/larry-sabato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/

But hey you got some new backers today. In addition to the Russians, looks like you have the North Koreans on your side too! Lol.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0YN35S

Trump 2016!

Some of us have standards.

Nice backhand personal insult…You are damn right I have standards.  I am willing to vote for a person that is not my first, second or third choice because the alternative is far worse.  Unless you are in support of Hilary (which I suspect you are) then any vote that is not for Trump is essentially a vote for Clinton.  It is really that simple.  Only one of these 2 people will be president. You can invoke the Libertarian guy, the Green Party Guy as has been attempted before but this is a 2 person race.

There are no great choices in this election.  To me the Supreme Court is among my key issues and Trump is the only one that has had the balls to say what he plans to do and list examples of the types of judges that he his considering.  A Hilary Clinton presidency which affect the courts for at least one to two generations as she will most like appoint 4-5 new justices over an 8 year term and I really feel that is what you want in your rants…

SoPinesHeel - 27 July 2016 09:53 PM

When did a major party try to stop its nominee???? Try this year dude. Where have you been?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html?

It didn’t have to be exposed…they did it in public. The difference is that people like you voted the guy to the nomination against the better judgement of those who know more than the average guy and over in the Dem world the guy they didn’t like, who isnt a democrat lost in the primary anyway.

Ah yes, you expose why you are Trump supporters. You attempt to discredit anything that doesn’t fit what you want to believe even if those people are people who have impeccable credentials of the political philosophy you claim to be for. Maybe we can get some more definitions for ad hominem arguments on here…since neither of you obviously read them.

I suggest you look up the definition of truthiness. It will help to explain you own worldview since you can’t see it yourself. But hey, every demagogue needs well meaning rubes to fall for their tricks.

Speaking of something else that neither of you two read, I suggest you check out the Wall Street Journal editorial page today. It is such a liberal rag since George Will is such a traitor. Of course it is complete BS also. Definitely not up to the standards of such intellectuals as Scott Baio, Mike Tyson or Antonio Sabato Jr.

Also watch Idiocracy since you two obviously don’t get the jokes I make. It might hit a little close to home though so be warned. You might feel the urge to lash out on Twitter like your hero does.

As to knowing about the ties of Heir Trump to Vlad? Since George Will and the Wall Street Journal aren’t “Real Americans” check out the Trump kids. Just ask them, they will tell you themselves.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

Voltaire said “Those who can be made to believe absurdities, can be made to commit atrocities.”
Congrats on falling for the confidence act.

As for George Will and an attempt to discredit him, he was asserting something where he has nothing to support it. Unless you can explain where he got access to Trump’s tax records, then I have no reason to think he knows beyond making a guess, but you want me to take it as fact because it supports your view. I don’t know if what he says is true or not, but neither does he, so your source is weak. Now, to top it off, you’re citing an opinion page as a source? You really have no room to question anyone’s sources at this point.

As to your post on the party. Division among politicians and campaigning in political opposition is what we’ve areeed is absolutely normal. It’s the part where the party committee is stacking the deck that isn’t. As for that part, from the very article you posted:

“There is no mechanism,” Mr. Leavitt said. “There is no smoke-filled room. If there is, I’ve never seen it, nor do I know anyone who has. This is going to play out in the way that it will.”

The point is that in the DNC, the “smoke filled room” existed and was exposed. The party was the “mechanism” versus having it “play out in the way it will.” That’s why 2 DNC Chairs were forced out - not the same and not the norm.

Ah yes, you got me…except of course the whole problem with the fact that he democratic primary voters voted for the person the DNC wanted, the person who was actually a member of their party (shocked they would want that) and no amount of thumbs on the scale changed that…but fair enough. You are right they have egg on their face and of course I know you are so gleeful that a foreign government had a hand in it, never the less wondering why Russians or North Koreans would be supportive of your guy. I think it’s the real American thing to do.

Oh and Trumps kids certainly are not primary sources right? What no meme making fun of the Wall Street Journal? Of course you would have to actually read that liberal rag I guess to do so.

As to CU I’m sorry your standards are so low. I am not a Clinton supporter. I am a Gary Johnson supporter, just like I did last time, and Bob Barr before him, and Michael Bednarik before him but of course you know better who I support than me right? Also you need to learn a little more about the electoral college before you tell me about the effect of my vote. I’ll just chalk that up on the ever growing list of things I know more about than either of you. But if you ask me who between the two will do a better job? Anyone with a modicum of judgement knows it’s Hillary which is why so few actual Republicans showed up at your convention to support the guy who your own senate majority leader “lacks a basic understanding of the issues.”  Of course he is just a liberal right? How bout the guy who wrote the book that Trump always touts he wrote, The Art of the Deal who says that trump has never read a book in his adult life and tells us all we should be terrified of a Donald Trump presidency. No memes making fun of him?

How about these guys since you all think Facebook is a primary source:
https://www.facebook.com/historiansondonaldtrump/

But of course what do all these bow tie wearing old farts with all their book lernin know. Donald is gonna make America Great Again? How? Know one knows but he is gonna do it. And he is gonna pick some judges who are smart like Clarence Thomas, you know the guy who literally did not speak on the bench for TWENTY YEARS!!!!!! He is so smart and we aren’t racist because he is black. Or maybe we can get another ruling like citizens united, the ruling that has done more to flood politicians with cash than any other single ruling in history. Strict constitutionalists right? Like when they elected GW president right? Oh that went your way I forgot so it doesn’t count.

As the only one of the three of us who might have to actually carry out one of Donald Trumps orders I have a pretty big stake in this election. But alas I am tired of typing on my phone…

I’ll stand by for some more memes since you guys love ad hominem attacks so much. Did I use that right? I might need a definition.

You really like making things personal with the insults.  It really speaks a lot about you. Perhaps it is because you are a frustrated Libertarian that lives his life in a theoretical world of how you would like the world to be vs. the way it actually is.  I know the Electoral College quite well.  I know the Green Party probably cost Al Gore the Presidency in 2000. That is all they will ever be in America…A spoiler.  The Libertarian message has had its chance with Rand on Ron Paul which were the best chances this party had to gain any relevance and the bottom line is it isn’t catching on. 

Enjoy your misery…..

No you don’t if you state that a vote that isn’t for trump is a vote for Hillary. Keep digging though. I know all my theories, and knowledge, and books, and lernin is tough for you.

I’m not miserable, but it sure seems like you are illustrated by your butt hurt responses on this and other threads. I guess if my views couldn’t stand up to basic scrutiny then I would be butt hurt too. Does all that tough trump talk about how America is too politically correct and people just need to be tougher doesn’t apply when someone turns around and smacks you back with a shot of your own medicine.

Enjoy your misery…

Your Views?  I know what you rail against which is about everything….Should I go to the Libertarian Website or Gary Johnson Website to get your views? Or do you have your own?

I don’t fit in a neat basket of views like you seem to, but sure go there if you want. Also quit being such a little bitch and get tougher…isn’t that what you guys call being politically incorrect? I’m pretty sure insults are the new Republican way right?

Or is it only when you are making the insults. I see how it works.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 11:27 AM

Ah yes, you got me…except of course the whole problem with the fact that he democratic primary voters voted for the person the DNC wanted, the person who was actually a member of their party (shocked they would want that) and no amount of thumbs on the scale changed that…but fair enough. You are right they have egg on their face and of course I know you are so gleeful that a foreign government had a hand in it, never the less wondering why Russians or North Koreans would be supportive of your guy. I think it’s the real American thing to do.

They did indeed vote for the candidate the party wanted, so the thumb on the scale wasn’t necessary, but it was there which is the bad part.

I don’t know if a foreign government had a hand in it or not. I’ve heard that said, but nothing conclusive has been found either way. I don’t like that anyone hacks into our systems. If it was a foreign government that was able to hack into the DNC system, then it really makes we concerned that they would have likely been able to hack into the server at Hillary’s home.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 11:27 AM

Oh and Trumps kids certainly are not primary sources right? What no meme making fun of the Wall Street Journal? Of course you would have to actually read that liberal rag I guess to do so.

Trump’s kids could be a primary source, it depends on the topic.
I don’t have a meme to make fun of the Wall Street Journal, your citation of an editorial page as a source is humorous enough.

You mean the topic where they were quoted directly in the post I put that said the Trump organization is heavily tied to Russia, a country where oligarchs aligned with Putin run everything? I definitely think there isn’t enough evidence yet…

But Hey your boy actually hopes the Russians do some more hacking…congratulations. Or maybe there isn’t enough evidence for that yet either…do you also question gravity since you can’t see it?