SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 02:20 PM

You mean the topic where they were quoted directly in the post I put that said the Trump organization is heavily tied to Russia, a country where oligarchs aligned with Putin run everything? I definitely think there isn’t enough evidence yet…

Yeah, they said they do a lot of business in Russia, so I believe them. Good source.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 02:20 PM

But Hey your boy actually hopes the Russians do some more hacking…congratulations. Or maybe there isn’t enough evidence for that yet either…do you also question gravity since you can’t see it?

That was pretty clearly a comment made in jest. I guess it went over your head.
I’m good with gravity. What does the DNC tell you your opinion is?

Yes, the DNC tells me what to think. Weird that outfits like the Wall Street Journal, and republican strategists agree with them too. Maybe they get their marching orders from the DNC too. Also weird that I am a card carrying member of another party. Good thinking genius. Maybe you can make an ad hominem meme about it.

Since you take the opposite opinion to anything that points out the fraud of you and your boy, no matter the evidence, it seems to be you who is the only one whose opinion is formed by a politcal operation. Pretty sure that is called living in a fantasyland. Congrats, you are just like the person you think is qualified to be President. I hope you have higher standards in your personal life. Probably not though.

Since you need sources for everything, try this. You can actually see it unlike gravity and air.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-russia-clinton-emails-treason-226303

I’ll give you credit for sticking around after getting trounced again and again. Looks like CU already has gotten too butthurt and has moved out.

I’ll give you credit for sticking around after getting trounced again and again. Looks like CU already has gotten too butthurt and has moved out.

As I said in another post, it is not my shift.  You are waging so many flame wars that your are going to have to have a secretary to pencil me in.

When I think of the Libertarians I think of “Lilliputians” from Gulliver’s Travels…Not to be confused with “Vladimir Putins” of Russia that you have invoked as many unproven conspiracy theories as to the wereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa

Yes, definitely unproven. The cyber security company that investigated the hack pointed to two different government sponsored agencies from Russia and the FBI is now investigating. The US Senate committee on Intelligence is also involved. No doubt it is all a charade.

You truly will discredit anything that doesn’t fit your worldview won’t you. Even if it is a foreign government. Sad really. Now sit down.

Next up?

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 03:32 PM

Yes, the DNC tells me what to think. Weird that outfits like the Wall Street Journal, and republican strategists agree with them too. Maybe they get their marching orders from the DNC too. Also weird that I am a card carrying member of another party. Good thinking genius. Maybe you can make an ad hominem meme about it..

It is weird that you would be a card carrying member of another party and take your talking points from the DNC. I agree.
I am impressed that you used ad hominem though. If you look at the rest of the logical fallacies, you might see some more of your common strategies. For example, your use of George Will to establish the facts of Trump’s tax returns would be an appeal to false authority.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 03:32 PM

Since you take the opposite opinion to anything that points out the fraud of you and your boy, no matter the evidence, it seems to be you who is the only one whose opinion is formed by a politcal operation. Pretty sure that is called living in a fantasyland. Congrats, you are just like the person you think is qualified to be President. I hope you have higher standards in your personal life. Probably not though.

I simply ask that you show evidence to support your claims, and the opinions of George Will and an editorial page are not good sources. I would’ve expected a UNC grad to understand that, but maybe you took those phantom classes.  You say “no matter the evidence, but you’ve shown none - again. All you have established is that Trump has business in Russia.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 03:32 PM

Since you need sources for everything, try this. You can actually see it unlike gravity and air.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-russia-clinton-emails-treason-226303[/quot.e].

I don’t need sources to tell me about Trump’s statement. The video is online, and I can watch it and form an opinion. Why would I seek someone else to tell me what to think about it? How many opinions did you read before forming your opinion? My guess is 1, then found people that agree with you (meaning agree with the first person’s opinion you read).

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 03:32 PM

I’ll give you credit for sticking around after getting trounced again and again. Looks like CU already has gotten too butthurt and has moved out.

I think the definition you need is of trounced.

I think the definition you need is of trounced.

This is coming from a person whose candidate believes the way to reduce crime is to legalize drugs….It will make your stats look great.  The same guy that believes in legalizing prostitution…

Well, I guess you don’t understand Russia either. Check out what it takes to do business in Russia before you post again. Man you have a lot to learn. Strange that all my fake classes have helped me to understand the world better than all your real ones at Clemson. I guess that is why Carolina is a much better school.

As to the rest, when the people on your own team point out the problems, which I illustrated, you know there is one. You don’t have to believe…I am not worried about what someone like you who thinks a wall is gonna be built a paid for by Mexico thinks.

But I am sure Russia, overstatement of wealth, and potential criminal problems have nothing to with Trumps refusal to release his returns…

You don’t know what trounced means either? Man, Clemson has to step it up.

CU_Tigers4life - 28 July 2016 04:24 PM

I think the definition you need is of trounced.

This is coming from a person whose candidate believes the way to reduce crime is to legalize drugs….It will make your stats look great.  The same guy that believes in legalizing prostitution…

Oh Jesus, are you serious? Please tell me how successful the War on Drugs has been.

No wonder you are a Republican. Congrats on your failed war. I am sure you have been fighting it hard. Talk to the people that do on a daily basis. They agree with me not you, as does the tide of progress.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 04:27 PM

CU_Tigers4life - 28 July 2016 04:24 PM

I think the definition you need is of trounced.

This is coming from a person whose candidate believes the way to reduce crime is to legalize drugs….It will make your stats look great.  The same guy that believes in legalizing prostitution…

Oh Jesus, are you serious? Please tell me how successful the War on Drugs has been.

No wonder you are a Republican. Congrats on your failed war. I am sure you have been fighting it hard. Talk to the people that do on a daily basis. They agree with me not you, as does the tide of progress.

So what you are saying is that it is better to be pragmatic and take the real world for the way it is rather than stand on principle?

Yes, I do. But you lost me as to how this applies here.

This coming from the guy from the party that purges people as RINOs.

Yes, I do. But you lost me as to how this applies here.

Here is why I ask…I have frequently stated that I am voting for Trump and the Republican party because I see the world the same way you feel about drugs. It is the best option available given the choices presented before me.  I am sure you don’t want everyone geeked up on drugs creating a public health problem but you think it is a futile battle and should go the legalization route.

You support Gary Johnson the same way I feel about fighting the war on drugs..conviction.  You think I are supporting a good fight as do I and we both know that are probably futile efforts at this time in history.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 04:25 PM

Well, I guess you don’t understand Russia either. Check out what it takes to do business in Russia before you post again. Man you have a lot to learn. Strange that all my fake classes have helped me to understand the world better than all your real ones at Clemson. I guess that is why Carolina is a much better school.

I guess I should’ve known not to assume the article you posted makes the point you want it to make and read more closely. Other than hosting a beauty pageant in Moscow, Trump’s many attempts to do business in Russia have been unsuccessful and though he has wanted to do business there, it hasn’t worked out. What the younger Trump was referencing in the quote copied in the article was about Russians and US real estate. There are some points that would be fair discussion about that, but in looking back at your source and others, nobody has demonstrated any business in Russia beyond a beauty pageant.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 04:25 PM

As to the rest, when the people on your own team point out the problems, which I illustrated, you know there is one. You don’t have to believe…I am not worried about what someone like you who thinks a wall is gonna be built a paid for by Mexico thinks.

I didn’t say there were no problems with what he said. I said it was made in jest, which it was. That doesn’t make it a wise thing to say, but it’s different from this claim that he’s really asking Russia to hack into our systems. Anyway, since you know so much about Russia, I’m sure you know they’re trying to do that anyway. Do you think they would stop if Trump asked them? 

Did George Will tell you my thoughts on the wall being paid for by Mexico? I don’t remember ever posting anything about that. I’m sure you have a good source though.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 04:25 PM

But I am sure Russia, overstatement of wealth, and potential criminal problems have nothing to with Trumps refusal to release his returns…

No evidence to support anything on any of those - just a political ploy. If there’s an overstatement of wealth, he gets bashed and if not, the left bashes him because he’s wealthy. I’m sure you’ve got evidence of criminal problems. He has stated that he’s being audited, so we should know if there are criminal problems, but as long as there’s no proven intent, he should be fine, right?

Sorry bro, gotta work. I’ll let you believe what you want. We can revisit one day to see how I was right all along. Of course you will probably not have enough proof then ether. Must be nice to live in a fantasyland of denial with such a burden of proof. Probably like your party and global warming, unless 100% of scientists have a complete consensus it isn’t proven…and just like your Vice President’s belief that the science isn’t proven that smoking kills either.

CU_Tigers4life - 28 July 2016 04:56 PM

Yes, I do. But you lost me as to how this applies here.

Here is why I ask…I have frequently stated that I am voting for Trump and the Republican party because I see the world the same way you feel about drugs. It is the best option available given the choices presented before me.  I am sure you don’t want everyone geeked up on drugs creating a public health problem but you think it is a futile battle and should go the legalization route.

You support Gary Johnson the same way I feel about fighting the war on drugs..conviction.  You think I are supporting a good fight as do I and we both know that are probably futile efforts at this time in history.

I get your point but I actually believe there is nothing wrong with most drugs…it is just a way to keep cartels and folks in the money and keep certain populations down.

The war isn’t just a waste of time, it is morally wrong and has kept huge populations that are disproportionally minority in poverty.

SoPinesHeel - 28 July 2016 09:30 PM

Sorry bro, gotta work. I’ll let you believe what you want. We can revisit one day to see how I was right all along. Of course you will probably not have enough proof then ether. Must be nice to live in a fantasyland of denial with such a burden of proof. .

You mean the United States? I’m sorry you find that inconvenient. I understand it must be frustrating to have felt smart parroting talking points for so long only to find that there are people who don’t accept as fact anything said by someone that meets the low standard of knowing more than Pines.