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Posted: 23 November 2019 06:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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This week made it clear to me.  While Ohio St is one of the 2 best teams in the country, they look beatable.  Also, UGA does not belong.

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Posted: 23 November 2019 09:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Agreed.  tOSU seemed like a world beater along with Clemson but after playing their first decent team they appear mortal.  IMO UGA is zero threat to win it all and LSU will have to score 45+ to have a chance against Clemson or tOSU which is unlikely, particularly doing it twice.

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Posted: 24 November 2019 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Thanks to Oregon laying an egg against AZ State, the chances of the PAC 12 getting a spot in the playoff took a step back.  Utah is the last hope but I think the chances of 2 SEC teams or the Big 12 got a lot of help thanks to Oregon.  That league needed both teams to stay at one loss going into the PAC 12 title game to look good to the committee.

I agree that tOSU looked very beatable.  I think Clemson’s defense can rattle Fields cage.  Offensively, Clemson is peaking at the right time and I feel good about our chances….Michigan is looking strong right now and if they can score, they could beat tOSU.

UGa is overrated.  While I would love to see the Dawgs in the playoffs, I think LSU is going to carve the up like a roast.

If UGA loses the SEC title game I think Alabama and Oklahoma have a chance of getting that 4th slot with LSU, tOSU and Clemson getting the other 3.


Here’s my top 6 as of 11-24-19

LSU
Ohio State
Clemson
UGa
Oklahoma
Alabama

While I think UGa is overrated, I’m not punishing them for a win that wasn’t “impressive”. I don’t think they finish here but everything is still in front of them.

 

 

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Posted: 24 November 2019 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Thanks to Oregon laying an egg against AZ State, the chances of the PAC 12 getting a spot in the playoff took a step back.  Utah is the last hope but I think the chances of 2 SEC teams or the Big 12 got a lot of help thanks to Oregon.  That league needed both teams to stay at one loss going into the PAC 12 title game to look good to the committee.

I agree that tOSU looked very beatable.  I think Clemson’s defense can rattle Fields cage.  Offensively, Clemson is peaking at the right time and I feel good about our chances….Michigan is looking strong right now and if they can score, they could beat tOSU.

UGa is overrated.  While I would love to see the Dawgs in the playoffs, I think LSU is going to carve the up like a roast.

If UGA loses the SEC title game I think Alabama and Oklahoma have a chance of getting that 4th slot with LSU, tOSU and Clemson getting the other 3.


Here’s my top 6 as of 11-24-19

LSU
Ohio State
Clemson
UGa
Oklahoma
Alabama

While I think UGa is overrated, I’m not punishing them for a win that wasn’t “impressive”. I don’t think they finish here but everything is still in front of them.

 

 

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Posted: 25 November 2019 11:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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I think LSU will beat UGA and knock them out. I think Bama gets the win against Auburn and takes the 4th spot.

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Posted: 25 November 2019 12:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Curggr - 25 November 2019 11:50 AM

I think LSU will beat UGA and knock them out. I think Bama gets the win against Auburn and takes the 4th spot.

 

I think Bama would have to murder Auburn to get in.  Their resume is just as bland as Utah’s would be if they beat Oregon.  But Utah can win their conference.  If Oregon wins then Bama is basically in by default. 


Can you imagine the butthurt if Bama beats LSU in the first round and/or played Clemson in the final?  I can hear the cries now.

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Posted: 25 November 2019 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Utah has to fight the Bama factor to get in, but they have an extra TV day to gain some hype.  They need to blow the Pac 12 title game out and get noticed, otherwise it will be tough.  The deck is already stacked against them.

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Posted: 26 November 2019 09:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Ohio State jumps LSU to #1.

1.  Ohio St
2.  LSU
3.  Clemson
4.  UGA (somehow)

5.  Alabama
6.  Utah

Oh how I would love to play LSU first round.  A team that is way to emotionally hyped on this run that has never been in the playoffs before and plays no defense.  Yes please.

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Posted: 27 November 2019 07:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Its reallllllllly interesting to hear everyone talk about no one wanting to play Clemson first in the playoffs especially since the early rankings snubbing and criticism about our play.  Why the change?  Maybe because we are the best team in the country?  Perhaps.

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Posted: 28 November 2019 09:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Clemtgrs - 27 November 2019 07:29 PM

Its reallllllllly interesting to hear everyone talk about no one wanting to play Clemson first in the playoffs especially since the early rankings snubbing and criticism about our play.  Why the change?  Maybe because we are the best team in the country?  Perhaps.

The team nobody wants to play and who should be No. 1 are two separate discussions. Clemson is the former because they’ve been in ass-kicking mode since the start of October and have a championship pedigree and proven coaching staff. Clemson isn’t going to be the latter when its best win is…Texas A&M? Wake Forest? What Clemson is doing is making the No. 1 vs. No. 2 race (which the Buckeyes should win if form holds) somewhat important for a change.

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Posted: 28 November 2019 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Clemtgrs - 27 November 2019 07:29 PM

Its reallllllllly interesting to hear everyone talk about no one wanting to play Clemson first in the playoffs especially since the early rankings snubbing and criticism about our play.  Why the change?  Maybe because we are the best team in the country?  Perhaps.


Most of that talk by the media was them hoping we would drop a game and a 3 month smear campaign would keep us out the playoff with 1 loss.  Since that appears to be a lost cause they all have to revert to how they truly feel about us so they can all pretend to be the smartest guy in the room.  Very few have consistently given us credit. 

Lots of short term memory loss in the media.  The last decade doesn’t mean anything, being a storied program does.  It’s a pretty ignorant way to approach their jobs particularly for a sport that is far more “what have you done for me lately”.  This aint our first rodeo and we’re on arguably one of the best streaks off all time.  With Bama’s loss to LSU we probably clinched the best record (as it stands today) by a Senior class EVER.

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Posted: 28 November 2019 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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MattSmith - 28 November 2019 09:43 AM

The team nobody wants to play and who should be No. 1 are two separate discussions. Clemson is the former because they’ve been in ass-kicking mode since the start of October and have a championship pedigree and proven coaching staff. Clemson isn’t going to be the latter when its best win is…Texas A&M? Wake Forest? What Clemson is doing is making the No. 1 vs. No. 2 race (which the Buckeyes should win if form holds) somewhat important for a change.

CFP Mission Statement: “The committee’s task will be to select the best teams, rank the teams for inclusion in the playoff and selected other bowl games and then assign the teams to sites.” 

I interpret this as ranking best to worst.  By most peoples definition I would think the “best” and “most dangerous” or most difficult to beat are the same thing.  I’m pretty sure Vegas had us a 3.5 point favorites over tOSU and 4.5 points over LSU.  Why have UGA’s recruiting rankings consistently held them as the top 1 loss team over the last few years but our actual championships can’t hold us as the top undefeated?  For over half the season LSU stood on a “great win” over Texas, now that win is basically worthless.  While I agree that this season takes precedent when evaluating teams but to disregard what Clemson has accomplished the last 2 or 5 or 10 seasons is kinda an ignorant approach. 

 

 

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Posted: 28 November 2019 03:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Ancient Orange - 28 November 2019 12:32 PM
MattSmith - 28 November 2019 09:43 AM

The team nobody wants to play and who should be No. 1 are two separate discussions. Clemson is the former because they’ve been in ass-kicking mode since the start of October and have a championship pedigree and proven coaching staff. Clemson isn’t going to be the latter when its best win is…Texas A&M? Wake Forest? What Clemson is doing is making the No. 1 vs. No. 2 race (which the Buckeyes should win if form holds) somewhat important for a change.

CFP Mission Statement: “The committee’s task will be to select the best teams, rank the teams for inclusion in the playoff and selected other bowl games and then assign the teams to sites.” 

I interpret this as ranking best to worst.  By most peoples definition I would think the “best” and “most dangerous” or most difficult to beat are the same thing.  I’m pretty sure Vegas had us a 3.5 point favorites over tOSU and 4.5 points over LSU.  Why have UGA’s recruiting rankings consistently held them as the top 1 loss team over the last few years but our actual championships can’t hold us as the top undefeated?  For over half the season LSU stood on a “great win” over Texas, now that win is basically worthless.  While I agree that this season takes precedent when evaluating teams but to disregard what Clemson has accomplished the last 2 or 5 or 10 seasons is kinda an ignorant approach. 

 

Georgia is the top 1-loss team because it beat No. 10, No. 15 and No. 16. Alabama’s quality wins are…um, yeah. Utah’s quality wins are…um, yeah. That’s why. Nothing really to do with recruiting right now.

CFP’s mission is not to rank teams so that every team would be favored over every team below it and an underdog to every team above it. If it were, yeah, Clemson probably should be No. 1.

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Posted: 29 November 2019 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Of course Las Vegas factors into the rankings and to deny that is disingenuous.  Clemson was a 27 point favorite over UNC when they escaped with a one point victory and the press have clubbed them over the head with the “loss”..How did the media decide that was too close of a margin of victory?  It was still early in the season…...

The UGA loss is a point of ire to me…They are not being held to the same standard after the South Carolina loss…again..a huge favorite and they lose at home. So what if they beat a Florida team that everyone seems to have forgotten that they nearly loss to a Miami team that just loss to FIU..What will the narrative be when Clemson beats that same South Carolina team be 5 touchdowns and LSU clubs them like a baby seal?

SOS schedules are sketchy at best because every team is not scrutinized the same way. 

The “Eye” test seems to kick in when it becomes convenient…Nothing has changed in that same horrible Clemson schedule and that terrible ACC and suddenly Clemson has become that team no one wants to play.  Aside from the UNC game we have been destroying every team we’ve played and had Dabo played his starters as long and Saban, Riley and some of the other top coaches our average margin of victory could be over 40 points.

I love how the sports press can change on a dime.

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Posted: 08 December 2019 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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The way I hear it, Ohio St is begging to be #1 while LSU doesn’t seem to care.  That makes me more worried playing LSU than Ohio St.  Ohio St doesn’t want to play us first, LSU says anyone anywhere which makes them sound more reckless.

We’re about to find out what happens.

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