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Iowa Caucasus Polls 2020
Posted: 04 February 2020 10:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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I don’t know what the results will be, but if Bernie doesn’t win, his supporters are going to be pissed and assume he was screwed.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 10:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Good. I hope it is the end of Iowa as an important state and the end of their wacky caucus outdated silliness.

It’s a perfect state for Republicans. Not diverse and not representative of America. Just like that party.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 11:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Well the President did dominate the Republican caucus. At least they didn’t cancel it,  cause we know how upset that would make you all… I mean you are so concerned about Bernie.

Here is a good look at what cult members do and say in Iowa. Yes, this is real.

https://youtu.be/Cas2wXZz1PE

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 February 2020 10:59 AM

Good. I hope it is the end of Iowa as an important state and the end of their wacky caucus outdated silliness.

It’s a perfect state for Republicans. Not diverse and not representative of America. Just like that party.


You may get your wish on the Iowa Caucus.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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I hope I do…it’s not like it’s ingrained in history. I’m pretty sure it only dates to the 70s as first.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 February 2020 12:17 PM

I hope I do…it’s not like it’s ingrained in history. I’m pretty sure it only dates to the 70s as first.

Yep, here’s a quick snippet I found:

Political parties in the Hawkeye State have used caucuses to select candidates since the 19th century – but it wasn’t until 1972 that the state held the first contest in the presidential nominating calendar.

Here’s how it happened: After the violent protests at the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, party leaders decided to spread out the nominating contest schedule in each state. Iowa – thanks to its long and complex nomination process – was the first state to hold a contest in the 1972 campaign. Four years later, the state also held the first Republican caucuses in the White House race.

And it was in that year that the Iowa caucuses grabbed the national spotlight.

Iowa needs to go back to a Primary system.  I know that would create a conflict with New Hampshire, who wants to always be the first Primary, but it’s still the better way to go.

I do like all states and I would suggest a few smaller states going first gives those campaign with a smaller budget a chance to get traction.  If a big State like California went first a lot of candidates simply couldn’t afford to sustain a campaign.  Iowa’s a cheap state and NH is small which is why in part I like the smaller states getting an early shot.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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South Carolina is a smaller state too and a lot more representative of the Democratic Party and its demographics.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 February 2020 12:33 PM

South Carolina is a smaller state too and a lot more representative of the Democratic Party and its demographics.

I agree.  I have no problem.  In fact, if NC, SC could pair up I think it would be helpful.  I like a system that gives all candidates the best chance to sell their case to the public and not just those with the biggest war-chest.  I do think NH has in in their state laws that they must be the first Primary.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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I’m tired of states with nobody being given outsized voices.

Hopefully that will change a little bit with the new census, which is why the current admin tried to rig it and then lie about the reasons.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 February 2020 12:41 PM

I’m tired of states with nobody being given outsized voices.

Hopefully that will change a little bit with the new census, which is why the current admin tried to rig it and then lie about the reasons.

I don’t see it that way.  Small States early give smaller budgeted campaigns a change to gain traction, get on national TV, makes some debates and these early small state elections allow a really good look at everyone.  Super Tuesday is the big date to blowout the low performers.  If they can’t get traction by that date they need to go.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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That’s fine for Republicans. Y’all are already monolithic and growing more so.

Not for Democrats. They should dump Iowa and get SC to move up to the same day if not earlier than New Hampshire.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 February 2020 12:57 PM

That’s fine for Republicans. Y’all are already monolithic and growing more so.

Not for Democrats. They should dump Iowa and get SC to move up to the same day if not earlier than New Hampshire.

I wouldn’t mind a State like SC moving up. They can do what ever they want.  As I said earlier a really large State like California, Texas or Florida would kill a lot of fledgling campaigns but that’s their call.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Why does Iowa even really matter? They get a good start, but to someone like Biden just being in the top 3 is fine. He will clean up later.

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Posted: 04 February 2020 09:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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UNC 98 - 04 February 2020 08:21 PM

Why does Iowa even really matter? They get a good start, but to someone like Biden just being in the top 3 is fine. He will clean up later.

My only gripe is that people are only having a problem with Iowa after the event.  I was watch the typical liberal news shows and I’ve heard a lot of racial overtones to diminish the Caucus.  In essence blame the voters and not the party and the tech company that ex-Clinton staffers created the app that was used in this event. 

Where were these naysayers before caucus?  The big loser were the citizens of Iowa that took the time to participate that is getting crapped on.

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