The State of FSU Football and where it goes from here.
Posted: 30 November 2020 11:23 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I’m not sure if I have ever seen as worse of a case of “how the mighty have fallen” like we are seeing in FSU.  I’m not counting teams that got hit with NCAA sanctions but many of those types of programs recovered. Although Penn State is having a bad year, that program recovered from the horrible scandal and returned to championship form in a short period of time.

FSU’s woes are totally self inflicted. I’m not sure what Jimbo’s role in it but from what I’ve read he frequently butted heads with the boosters, AD and Prez wanting more money for facilities and staff which was a source of contention.  I think he finally got tired and quit on the program and left.  Then FSU makes SJW move in Taggart.  He was totally out of his depth from the start and FSU had no choice but to take a 17 Million hit in his firing.  Now the hole gets deeper as players or opting out and leaving the program like rats on a sinking ship. I wonder if Norvell is having buyer’s remorse and is looking for a way out of this situation because his career is in trouble.

I think FSU’s creation of the Florida State University Athletics Association after the firing of Taggart will only make things worse. I know the boosters that helped pay the CWT buyout wanted a direct so-say in FSU athletics and that may be a deal made with the devil because now the noles have too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

I’m not sure how long if can possibly take for FSU to turn the ship around.  Negative recruiting will devour them from all of the schools competing against them.

I see FSU down for a very long time

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Posted: 30 November 2020 11:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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They are in big trouble. It keeps getting worse and worse. With Miami and Florida climbing back up and with the success of UCF, FSU is 4th in their state and sit at 2-6.

I thought at the time that the idea to give boosters more of a say was a disaster. I don’t know how much of an impact they’ve had so far, but that’s asking for trouble.

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Posted: 30 November 2020 07:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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If they don’t catch up with facilities they will never catch up on the field.

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Posted: 01 December 2020 09:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Yep. That’s going to take a while and they haven’t committed to the idea yet.  It’s not like they’re situated in a place where they can cross state lines and get the top players either.

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Posted: 01 December 2020 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Curggr - 01 December 2020 09:58 AM

Yep. That’s going to take a while and they haven’t committed to the idea yet.  It’s not like they’re situated in a place where they can cross state lines and get the top players either.

The 17 million they are having to pay off CWT’s contract could have went a long way to facility upgrades.

It’s going to take some serious patience from the administration and the fan base to give Norvell time to rebuild this dumpster fire.  It’s going to take 2-3 strong recruiting classes to even get competitive.  They definitely need to work the transfer portal and maybe the JUCO’s to fill holes.  FSU is still a big brand located in fertile recruiting territory.  They also need leaders on the team that will tighten up the locker room and purge the undesirables that have hurt this program.

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Posted: 01 December 2020 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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CU_Tigers4life - 01 December 2020 10:18 AM
Curggr - 01 December 2020 09:58 AM

Yep. That’s going to take a while and they haven’t committed to the idea yet.  It’s not like they’re situated in a place where they can cross state lines and get the top players either.

The 17 million they are having to pay off CWT’s contract could have went a long way to facility upgrades.

It’s going to take some serious patience from the administration and the fan base to give Norvell time to rebuild this dumpster fire.  It’s going to take 2-3 strong recruiting classes to even get competitive.  They definitely need to work the transfer portal and maybe the JUCO’s to fill holes.  FSU is still a big brand located in fertile recruiting territory.  They also need leaders on the team that will tighten up the locker room and purge the undesirables that have hurt this program.

That 17 millions is only his. They probably have a good bit tied up in coordinator and assistant contracts too.

They are going to have to patience as you said. They need time to get in some good players and that purging process can take a toll - short-term pain to change the long-term culture.

I agree, they are still a name and the transfers and JUCOs may help. Being a name lasts longer in our memories than it does in the mind of a recruit. We can easily recall the dominant FSU teams, but for a kid, that scope can be much shorter, and they can be more convinced by recent wins than looking back past several losing seasons to how the team was when they were 9 or 10 years old. Obviously, it can be done, and FSU is a big enough name to possibly be able to turn it around quickly. It can also take a while if it doesn’t get turned in a hurry. That happened to Tennessee, Miami and several others.

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Posted: 02 December 2020 11:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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