Trump Caves To Pelosi
Posted: 26 January 2019 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Not surprised. There should have never been a shutdown.  This was just a stunt for two alpha-dogs to standoff in a pubic pissing contest. 

Trump can blame the dems all they want on this one, but the GOP controlled congress are the ones to really blame on Trump not getting the wall.  The Housed passed a bill and the GOP controlled Senate could have passed this through reconciliation but didn’t get the job done plain and simple.  The GOP will now point the finger at the Dem’s for not getting the wall and play the victims just like the Dems do when they don’t have power.

I suspect this 3 week deal to reopen the Government will probably end up with a permanent deal or perhaps a series of continuing resolutions but in the end Trump isn’t getting his wall in the form that he wants and needs to move on and use this as a campaign tool because his base isn’t happen and he’s going to need to mend those fences.

His biggest bargaining tool is going to be if RBG steps down from the Supreme Court.  That’s his only real bargaining chip and needs to use that carefully.  I would rather give up on the wall than provide another round of amnesty for a bunch of illegals like Reagan wrongly did in the 80’s.

Pelosi and Schumer are already running their victory laps and self-pleasuring themselves over this political victory.  Trump should have picked a different fight than shutting down the government. 

“The Art of the Deal” is fine when you are in businesses jockeying for some profitable venture and you are only risking you capitol and perhaps some investors, but when you are dealing with a nation the rules are a little different because you aren’t just playing with your own money but the livelihood of hard-working people trying to do the right thing as an American Citizen.

Now Pines will look at this as an “I told you so moment”...My reply is if a person is unwilling to be critical when your party is screwing up the party will continue to act that way.  If certain people in the GOP can’t do the job then they can sit in time-out like Trump and the House are doing now.

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Posted: 26 January 2019 12:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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So what exactly is time out achieving?  How many people lost weeks of pay for him to play this game?  All for a wall that he promised Mexico would pay for? 

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Posted: 26 January 2019 04:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Ancient Orange - 26 January 2019 12:25 PM

So what exactly is time out achieving?  How many people lost weeks of pay for him to play this game?  All for a wall that he promised Mexico would pay for? 

My version of “time out” is referring to the GOP losing the house in the elections.  They are in a two year time out…It could be longer.

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Posted: 27 January 2019 05:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Trump AND the congress is to blame. I am glad good folks are getting the pay they deserve. I ask what a 3 week delay will achieve? Democrats will never budge on a wall. With that promise filled, the economy humming along, trade deals being reworked, and peace being pursued with N. Korea…he’d have a lot to brag about not only in the upcoming state of the union address, but in 2020, also. The democrats need to hang on to something besides Trump is a nazi to win back the white house in 2020. If he wins in economy, foreign policy, and border security that would be checkmate. They have to figure out a way to shape public opinion that the “wall” is a bad thing, when in fact open borders not only let in criminals, but also the influx of workers would hold down salaries. It already has. Pelosi is trying to keep a bunch of marbles in a circle, and it will be the end of her. I don’t think Schumer will have a leg to stand on in the senate, although he did block a bill that would pay the coast guard during the government shutdown. The way I see it is Trump wanting to compromise during the whole shut down. If his folks can get that conveyed properly it will look real bad on the democratic house. Pelosi saying she would never fund a wall, and showing no sign of bipartisan compromise. Trump may have a big ego, and a silly way to talking. That said, if this folks find a way to talk about what’s been achieved, and compare that to the House’s inability to find a compromise.. it’s telling.

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Posted: 28 January 2019 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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@UNC98:  Good assessment.  I agree.  Pelosi is so afraid of the far left that she can do the normal backdoor “wheeling and deal”  like they used to do.  You are also correct that it will ultimately be her downfall.  The problem with a Pelosi tumble will be a replacement with likes of the new face of the Democrats in AOC.

It will be interesting if this Schwarz fellow runs as an Independant.  I imagine there are a lot of mainstream democrats not happy with the direction of the party and would like another option that is not voting GOP.

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