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Posted: 21 January 2020 09:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Good. He’s earned it. He’s always impeached and history won’t look kind on his behavior nor the support for it.

I’ll be happy to admit that as long as you admit that your team doesn’t give a shit about what is right, their constitutional responsibilities and will tell any lie or excuse any wrong as long as it helps them win.

Oh by the way, it’s gonna help them lose and it can’t happen fast enough.

Cause you know…the constitution and all.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 10:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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That’s more than I expected of you.  Last night Schiff said he didn’t like the idea of a “one-for-one” witness exchange.  Can he be any more blatant about not wanting a stacked deck?

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Posted: 22 January 2020 03:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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What is stacked about material witnesses who have “first hand” knowledge of the event in question? Weird how that argument has gone out the door.

I am also glad that the defense team makes no argument to actually defend the clients actions…it’s all complaining about process. The one they declined to participate in.

Hunter Biden does not have any firsthand knowledge,. But hey I think we should call him and the Trump kids in as witnesses. What are their qualifications to be in the white household, but you all are worried about Ukrainian boards?
I do enjoy Republicans sudden newfound interest in supposed nepotism.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 04:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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What is stacked about material witnesses who have “first hand” knowledge of the event in question? Weird how that argument has gone out the door.

Why didn’t the Schiff or Chubby Cheeks Nadler Subpoena these “material witnesses”?

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Posted: 22 January 2020 04:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Why don’t you tell me? I mean you are so informed…

Maybe you can run out the clock.

Who are you to call anyone fat?

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Isn’t Schiff the one who said Trump definitely colluded with Russians only to find out he did not? Why choose him for impeachment? He’s a proven liar.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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You have evidence he didn’t?
Cause there is a lot that he did.

https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-timeline/

I do appreciate your new found dislike towards liars.
I’m sure you aren’t a Trump supporter anymore right? Cause you don’t like liars?

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

I think it’s because of Adam Schiff.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Isn’t there a report sponsored by the US Justice Dept available? That’s like the official government, I think.  Maybe Mueller just couldn’t remember.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Yeah there is…here’s a pretty good synopsis since I know you never read it. Or maybe you just can’t remember.

https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/

Some highlights but as someone who doesn’t like liars you might not like it since it pretty well shows you and your team lie about it constantly.

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

Got any more zingers?
Cause this is like the official government, I think.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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In the meantime, President Trump will be exonerated in about a week.  It will be over until the next round of tin-foil conspiracies and the Democrats once and for all will finally have to deal with the primary season with this “outstanding” field of candidates vying for the Democratic nomination and the latest polling has a 78 year old white, cranky, socialist that just had a heart attack slightly ahead of a rich 78 yearly white career politician that in addition to his gaffes, his forgetfulness, his inability to keep his roving hands to himself has a ton of baggage that could get him impeached to join the club.

Once this Trial is over Trump is going to unload.  In fact he already is.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Yeah bout time for you to run to the rescue…that ass kicking was almost getting sad.

Lol…and your boy will lose to whomever it is. It’s what usually happens when the majority of the country wants to see you convicted and removed from office.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 09:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 22 January 2020 09:56 PM

Yeah bout time for you to run to the rescue…that ass kicking was almost getting sad.

Lol…and your boy will lose to whomever it is. It’s what usually happens when the majority of the country wants to see you convicted and removed from office.

If that happens then so be it.  At least it will be by the will of the people and states rather than a party that has been trying to nullify an election for 4 years.  God forbid the voters have a say so.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 10:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Yeah, can you imagine overruling the will of the people and letting the person who gets the least amount of votes win?

Or even have a court choose it?

What kind of person could support that?
Effing activist judges.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 10:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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UNC 98 - 22 January 2020 09:10 PM

Isn’t Schiff the one who said Trump definitely colluded with Russians only to find out he did not? Why choose him for impeachment? He’s a proven liar.

When you stand up there and talk about things that have been investigated with no findings, your whole talk should be stricken from the record, and you should be censured - after being censured for his public statements during the Mueller investigation and for the so-called parody in the House.

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Posted: 22 January 2020 10:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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No findings? Bawhahahahah. The facts in this case aren’t even in question. Remember no quid pro quo? Remember no laws broken?

Says the cunt who won’t even stand up when his country calls?

I would expect that kind of reply from a freeloading piece of shit like you. Just like your boy, getting away on the sacrifices of others.

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