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Posted: 02 October 2017 12:34 PM   [ Ignore ]
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What a mess. A real tragedy.  I will be very interesting to see what comes out in this guys background that could have led him to do this.

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Posted: 02 October 2017 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Mental health.  We need more Mental Heath support and options.  This is terrible.  Crazy his casualties given his range, it’s much different than other mass shootings.  Distant, not personal.  Strange one.  I’m sure he has some sort of grievance that will be aired.

Of course first thing Hillary does is make it political.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 06:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Of course first thing Hillary does is make it political.


Yep..She is pretty shameless..A lot of Democrats could not get on the gun control bandwagon fast enough. Right out of the Rahm Emmanuel playbook of never letting a crisis go to waste.

They always throw the generic term of “gun control” out there with no specifics on what form they are speaking.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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CU_Tigers4life - 03 October 2017 06:54 AM

Of course first thing Hillary does is make it political.


Yep..She is pretty shameless..A lot of Democrats could not get on the gun control bandwagon fast enough. Right out of the Rahm Emmanuel playbook of never letting a crisis go to waste.

They always throw the generic term of “gun control” out there with no specifics on what form they are speaking.

Pretty ironic words from both of you

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Posted: 03 October 2017 09:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Ancient Orange - 03 October 2017 08:41 AM
CU_Tigers4life - 03 October 2017 06:54 AM

Of course first thing Hillary does is make it political.


Yep..She is pretty shameless..A lot of Democrats could not get on the gun control bandwagon fast enough. Right out of the Rahm Emmanuel playbook of never letting a crisis go to waste.

They always throw the generic term of “gun control” out there with no specifics on what form they are speaking.

Pretty ironic words from both of you


Why?  I am a political guy, but this isn’t a time for politics. Until we know what the hell went on and what compelled to guy to do what he did we need a lot more information before starting another discussion about gun control.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 11:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Because both of you also brought politics into the thread.  You’re basically begging for it to be a gun control argument.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Your girl did that first.

Is mental health political?

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Posted: 03 October 2017 11:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Ancient Orange - 03 October 2017 11:04 AM

Because both of you also brought politics into the thread.  You’re basically begging for it to be a gun control argument.


Calling out a politician for using a tragedy for political gain it not the same thing and you know that.  Clem was address mental health.

I have no desire for a political discussion on this issue until we know more..but all politicians need to chill out until we know more.

Do you think anyone politician should be politicizing this issue?

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Posted: 03 October 2017 12:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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The FBI took over a year to investigate HRC on the illegal server. They’ve been investigating DJT for months on Russian collusion. In less than 24 hours after the Vegus massacre, “the shooter has no ties to ISIS.”
This is not meant to be a political post, just an observation of the FBI.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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buzzzard - 03 October 2017 12:06 PM

The FBI took over a year to investigate HRC on the illegal server. They’ve been investigating DJT for months on Russian collusion. In less than 24 hours after the Vegus massacre, “the shooter has no ties to ISIS.”
This is not meant to be a political post, just an observation of the FBI.

As I am typing this, there is now speculation that the shooter may have transferred a lot of money out of the country…That could mean anything if true or could mean nothing.

All I know is that based on all of the other mass shootings, this guy fits no profile…ole, white , apparently rich, no apparent religious or political affiliations….There has to be more there.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Clemtgrs - 03 October 2017 11:14 AM

Your girl did that first.
Is mental health political?

No YOU brought the politics into this thread.  She’s a politician, what else do you expect her to do besides lie and bring politics in to everything.  In NC they can’t take a shit with out getting political about it. 

Yes the health of the nation needs to be steered by a the Government, mental health included.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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CU_Tigers4life - 03 October 2017 09:18 AM
Ancient Orange - 03 October 2017 08:41 AM
CU_Tigers4life - 03 October 2017 06:54 AM

Of course first thing Hillary does is make it political.

Yep..She is pretty shameless..A lot of Democrats could not get on the gun control bandwagon fast enough. Right out of the Rahm Emmanuel playbook of never letting a crisis go to waste.

They always throw the generic term of “gun control” out there with no specifics on what form they are speaking.

Pretty ironic words from both of you

Why?  I am a political guy, but this isn’t a time for politics. Until we know what the hell went on and what compelled to guy to do what he did we need a lot more information before starting another discussion about gun control.

 

You say “this isn’t a time for politics” but your second post in your thread has NOTHING to do with the event, except for the fact that word “gun” was in it, and everything to do with politics.  It’s a classic “lets stop talking about this, while I take the final shot”. 


It’s a terrible accident.  It will be a while before we have all the info. I only watched one video so far but people need better survival instincts.  They were just laying on the ground (at the cops instructions) while a shooter from an ELEVATED position was raining bullets down on them.  If you can see him he can see you, take cover.

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Posted: 03 October 2017 09:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Ok whatever, I brought politics in in a backwards way I guess?  Can’t say it’s immune to it.  I just hate people blaming these terrible events on inanimate objects.  Do they extend the range of the killing?  Of course, but they kill just like anything else in the end.  Ban crowbars, knives, hammers, hell…might as well even cars since those have been used.  I don’t give a crap if you want gun control or don’t want gun control.  What I want is you to be the advanced thinking species that we are and realize an inanimate object is not responsible, the psycho holding it is.  Mental health first.

Except it wasn’t an accident?  It was a premeditated horrific act.  Let’s just call it what it is.  At first I figured he was there for the casino since he was a big gambler and just so happened upon a large outdoor festival while there.  You know, these shootings usually are close quarters in your face type of thing, which is why I figured a casino floor might be his original plan, however the hammers just throw that theory out of the window.  He intentionally broke the windows and brought hammers to do so

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Posted: 03 October 2017 09:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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If you want me to get “political”, I can and at some point I probably will.  But not now…The Liberal left and Hollywood are doing a fine job of hijacking this tragedy for gain…If you wish to call Clem and My calling them out for their conduct “political” then whatever.

All I can say is that the more this story develops the more lit is looking like something more orchestrated but possible more than this shooter.  I am more interested in the whats and whys of this event.

It appears to me that A/O is just diverting a bit because he knows that the liberal left is looking like a bunch of horses asses for politicizing this tragedy.

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Posted: 04 October 2017 10:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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All I did was point out the hypocrisy of to Republicans claiming to want to talk about the attack and not politics but immediately bringing politics into the tread. 


I’ll be interested to see how large events (football) will change to protect against this.  I heard somebody mention today how one of the next fears is somebody using a drone to attack crowds like this.  You could do it and get away pretty cleanly if you planned correctly.  Maybe Clemson needs to install a gun turret in the Oculus.

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Posted: 04 October 2017 10:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Yeah but you have to register all drones with the government/FAA now right?!  Right?!  Pshhhhhh surely this could never happen.

Sorry, had to.  I told someone yesterday, everywhere we go now will be like going through TSA at the airport.  Metal detectors will be the norm.  Hotels will scan bags like airports before they are sent up to the room.

To be quite honest, I’m surprised it hasn’t happened at a football game or sports event sooner.  As sad as that is.

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