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Will The California “Fair Pay to Play Act” Destroy College Sports?
Posted: 01 October 2019 10:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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A rule like this should make everyone look at the worst possible ways this could be abused rather than the thought of putting a few dollars in athletes pockets.  This will bring those that will game the system just like what is happening with the transfer portal.

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Posted: 01 October 2019 12:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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I think Eric Church should have to sing in the chorus for 3 years at Carolina before he can go pro in Nashville.

At the very least he shouldn’t be allowed to profit off his likeness or music if he wanted to be a student at Carolina. The university should get it all.

Why do you all hate the free market so much? What a bunch of socialists.

I mean it wouldn’t be fair to Furman.

I guess it’s okay to have a coach sitting in “Johnny 5-stars” home and the recruiting coach tells him “If you sign with us, I have a car dealer that will give you a 100,000 endorsement deal to appear in his advertisements”

Cars dealers / boosters are already dropping 100,000 plus on Johnny 5-stars. Let’s take it out from under the table and put it on the table. Keep hearing the rich will get richer but all I’m hearing, and not just on this board, is the “rich” whining about it. I understand that this could be the beginning of the end for CB but something’s got to happen. The arms race at the expense of the the ticket holders can’t continue. I’m with Pines on this one

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Posted: 01 October 2019 12:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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I understand that this could be the beginning of the end for CB but something’s got to happen. The arms race at the expense of the the ticket holders can’t continue. I’m with Pines on this one


Why would you be in favor of something that you think could lead to the end of CFB as you stated? 

 

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Posted: 02 October 2019 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Well, I think that we could already be near the beginning of the end right now considering the fact that parents suing high schools for their kids injuries is at a all time high, not to mention peewee leagues. If amateur fb does survive I think that it will eventually be a farm system for the NFL. Plus, I think the players should be compensated for their image etc. It’s called unbridled capitalism. Not a popular opinion, but that what I think.

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Posted: 02 October 2019 01:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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buzzzard - 02 October 2019 12:29 PM

Well, I think that we could already be near the beginning of the end right now considering the fact that parents suing high schools for their kids injuries is at a all time high, not to mention peewee leagues. If amateur fb does survive I think that it will eventually be a farm system for the NFL. Plus, I think the players should be compensated for their image etc. It’s called unbridled capitalism. Not a popular opinion, but that what I think.

I hear what you are saying but let me ask you this… When a private national organization has a series of bylaws that all participating members have agreed to to comply with, what is wrong with that?  We can’t have 50 different states creating laws that a national organization can follow.  Players have been getting additional benefits aside from a total ride, cost of attendance,  unlimited meals..etc..

As I have stated, think of the worst ways this law can be manipulated and that’s what’s going to happen.

Now that the damned politicians and courts are involved you can be that the endgame will be some federal attempt to regulate this.

I hope a bunch of idiots wants EA Sports College Football back is worth it.

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Posted: 02 October 2019 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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This law will not end college football. There are too many people making a lot of money.

This law has been on the docket for over three years and the NCAA has done nothing since the spring and now is warning CA about consequences?

This law only effects players ability to make money off of their image or name. There are very few players this would pertain to. Maybe a Clowney, Lattimore, Watson, Lawrence? The average lineman or punter won’t make any money. The NCAA needs to really get their act together and come up with a plan or compromise for all of its member schools because it will happen.

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Posted: 02 October 2019 03:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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legalfee - 02 October 2019 02:07 PM

This law will not end college football. There are too many people making a lot of money.

This law has been on the docket for over three years and the NCAA has done nothing since the spring and now is warning CA about consequences?

This law only effects players ability to make money off of their image or name. There are very few players this would pertain to. Maybe a Clowney, Lattimore, Watson, Lawrence? The average lineman or punter won’t make any money. The NCAA needs to really get their act together and come up with a plan or compromise for all of its member schools because it will happen.

I’m kind of on the fence to be honest though leaning more one way.  I think everyone is looking at it just as football.  This is literally all student athletes on campus and could snowball quickly. That could be a big worm hole.  If it stays like this I don’t have a huge problem with it.  I don’t necessarily have a problem with them branding themselves, but I don’t want it ever to be a salary.  In this day and age I think you will be surprised how savvy some of these no names will be by building a personal brand.  It won’t just be the big names profiting I promise you.  Remember the kid from UCF that quit football because he wasn’t allowed to get revenue from his YouTube videos?  He’s super popular on the platform now and does it just about full time, this won’t happen anymore.  Why shouldn’t a college kid be able to monetize a personal social media platform when his classmates can?  Why can’t he take a deal from Chipotle?  We seem to be all fine with our schools selling out and plastering our stadiums and video boards with ads, and having 40 special presentations a game for sponsors but we get mad when the kids want to brand themselves?

I think you start getting into sticky situations when you are a Nike sponsored school but your big time RB or QB gets an Adidas deal offer.  Not sure how all that is going to work personal vs school.  Would it even happen?  Would you have schools acting as agents of sorts and bringing lumped deals to players?

Might be a good time to be a sports agent.

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Posted: 02 October 2019 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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My biggest area of concern is in what it will do to recruiting. The NIL rule will turn recruiting something that is already bad into something that is awful.  At least now some people won’t “cheat” out of fear of getting caught, being declared ineligible or hurting the program.  If you remove that barrier under this NIL rule then the insanity will begin.  There are boosters that are so desperate to win that they don’t care how much they spend and if it’s legal to endorse a player that is how the selling of recruits will occur….right out in the open.

The there is that kid that breaks out, discovers he can get more bank elsewhere and uses that 4 game rule and jumps into the transfer portal to go to the highest bidder.

If it was about a kid who was doing good on the field getting a few bucks to sign a jersey or make a personal appearance that’s fine but when head coaches have to deal with agents and the tail starts wagging the dog as it is in the NFL is when people will start tuning off.

College Football, in all of it’s glory is still minor league football…

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Posted: 03 October 2019 09:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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legalfee - 02 October 2019 02:07 PM

This law will not end college football. There are too many people making a lot of money.

This law has been on the docket for over three years and the NCAA has done nothing since the spring and now is warning CA about consequences?

This law only effects players ability to make money off of their image or name. There are very few players this would pertain to. Maybe a Clowney, Lattimore, Watson, Lawrence? The average lineman or punter won’t make any money. The NCAA needs to really get their act together and come up with a plan or compromise for all of its member schools because it will happen.

I’m kind of on the fence to be honest though leaning more one way.  I think everyone is looking at it just as football.  This is literally all student athletes on campus and could snowball quickly. That could be a big worm hole.  If it stays like this I don’t have a huge problem with it.  I don’t necessarily have a problem with them branding themselves, but I don’t want it ever to be a salary.  In this day and age I think you will be surprised how savvy some of these no names will be by building a personal brand.  It won’t just be the big names profiting I promise you.  Remember the kid from UCF that quit football because he wasn’t allowed to get revenue from his YouTube videos?  He’s super popular on the platform now and does it just about full time, this won’t happen anymore.  Why shouldn’t a college kid be able to monetize a personal social media platform when his classmates can?  Why can’t he take a deal from Chipotle?  We seem to be all fine with our schools selling out and plastering our stadiums and video boards with ads, and having 40 special presentations a game for sponsors but we get mad when the kids want to brand themselves?

I think you start getting into sticky situations when you are a Nike sponsored school but your big time RB or QB gets an Adidas deal offer.  Not sure how all that is going to work personal vs school.  Would it even happen?  Would you have schools acting as agents of sorts and bringing lumped deals to players?

Might be a good time to be a sports agent.

I think this ruling should only apply to the money making sports: Football, basketball, maybe baseball. I would think there would be exceptions i.e. if your school has a contract with Nike a player could not advertise for a competitor.

Why should someone on the tennis team profit from a star QBs ad?

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