TBE - 09 February 2009 11:36 PM

Any bailout is bad.. of course it’s bad. However arguing the same old bla bla is exactly what Obama was voted in to change. When you understand that you’ll be a lot better off.

You just said “the guy is just not ready for this job”.... lol You do realize he hasn’t been in office for a month yet right? This is exactly why I can’t involve myself in debate with you. Your mind was made up before he even took office. With that said, I’m back to the insane comment. If you do the same thing over and over again with no change…it’s well insane. And dude, whether you like it or not, OBAMA is our President and whether you like it or not, this bailout is going through.

Wow you tote that company line.. I don’t need to read anything else you say after reading that “The guy just is not ready for this job”. I guess you gave it a few weeks. Rush sang the magic negro song the day he was elected.

Yeah I listen to Rush sometimes for pure entertainment.  Some of the things he says is bat**** crazy.  He is a chickenhawk who failed college, leaves him no credibility in my book.  It sure is hilarious to listen to his listeners call in.  I know that he doesn’t allow guests to challenge his views, pure signs of a chicken.

But, he is the leader of the Republican Party.  When you have got McCain defending Rush, you know who the boss is of that party.

***MOD EDIT*** Keep it clean.

Wreck-N-Havoc - 10 February 2009 02:32 AM

TBE - 10 February 2009 02:13 AM

HokieHi - 10 February 2009 12:43 AM

TBE - 09 February 2009 11:36 PM

Any bailout is bad.. of course it’s bad. However arguing the same old bla bla is exactly what Obama was voted in to change.

He was voted in to not argue over what? Are you saying that the “bi-partisan” stuff was just talk and that he is going to do what he wants and not listen to anyone else’s ideas? Or, are you trying to say that he’s not going to argue over the same ideas that have been surfacing for the past 8 years?

Bi partisan is Good! Arguing the same tired useless ideology that we’ve heard and lived unsuccessfully for the past 8 years is BAD!

You have now used this in about 8 different posts. and that phrase by obama has become tired and useless because no one says specifically what that means other than the blanket statement. and it makes for a good jabline.  I would argue that I have not lived unsucessfully for that last 8 years and I am by no means a “rich” guy I make far less than a 100,000 a year. 

So between you and Moutain West and I believe Hokie Hi might be a dem….. give me some specifics of what you are talking about with the blanket failed policies statement.    if you are talking bad homeloans… that isn’t policy other than policy from equal housing people that forced banks to make bad loans… and idiot bankers who took unnecessary risks on people who didn’t have the capital to even remotely pay them back.

My point is there is your side and there is my side. It’s set up to execute as such. Checks and balances from both sides is why we call the USA the greatest place in the world. The problem is our society has evolved into instant non creditable media with 15 second news cycles. There is so much mis-information in our world that politics as we KNEW it, as it was created for, at this time is counter productive. The beast has grown to big for an issue as big as we currently are starring down.

Obama can hopefully draw out fellow centrists and get this Bill through and get some recovery started. As he said tonight he is considering all ideas from all sides.

TBE - 10 February 2009 04:42 AM

Wreck-N-Havoc - 10 February 2009 02:32 AM

TBE - 10 February 2009 02:13 AM

HokieHi - 10 February 2009 12:43 AM

TBE - 09 February 2009 11:36 PM

Any bailout is bad.. of course it’s bad. However arguing the same old bla bla is exactly what Obama was voted in to change.

He was voted in to not argue over what? Are you saying that the “bi-partisan” stuff was just talk and that he is going to do what he wants and not listen to anyone else’s ideas? Or, are you trying to say that he’s not going to argue over the same ideas that have been surfacing for the past 8 years?

Bi partisan is Good! Arguing the same tired useless ideology that we’ve heard and lived unsuccessfully for the past 8 years is BAD!

You have now used this in about 8 different posts. and that phrase by obama has become tired and useless because no one says specifically what that means other than the blanket statement. and it makes for a good jabline.  I would argue that I have not lived unsucessfully for that last 8 years and I am by no means a “rich” guy I make far less than a 100,000 a year. 

So between you and Moutain West and I believe Hokie Hi might be a dem….. give me some specifics of what you are talking about with the blanket failed policies statement.    if you are talking bad homeloans… that isn’t policy other than policy from equal housing people that forced banks to make bad loans… and idiot bankers who took unnecessary risks on people who didn’t have the capital to even remotely pay them back.

My point is there is your side and there is my side. It’s set up to execute as such. Checks and balances from both sides is why we call the USA the greatest place in the world. The problem is our society has evolved into instant non creditable media with 15 second news cycles. There is so much mis-information in our world that politics as we KNEW it, as it was created for, at this time is counter productive. The beast has grown to big for an issue as big as we currently are starring down.

Obama can hopefully draw out fellow centrists and get this Bill through and get some recovery started. As he said tonight he is considering all ideas from all sides.

1.  Obama is not a centrist, his voting record says he is liberal.  Until proven otherwise, he is, rhetoric is b.s.  like saying you didn’t take steroids.

2.  it’s not his bill, it’s pelosi’s who right now is more powerful than Obama.  She controls the dems, he can not piss her and them off yet.  I honestly believe he and other dems know there is a lot of b.s. in this bill but as long as ALL (and ALL are) of them are getting their pet projects funded that they haven’t for 8 yrs, they will vote yes.  both sides do this whenever they can, it’s pretty maddening but this is not the time and place for that.

3.  why is he now just considering all ideas from all sides, in last week’s meeting he said it was bipartisan, when it wasn’t ... he was just going thru the motions at that point.  i am real curious to see now if he is actually going to take ideas from republicans.  since i think they are all liars and cheats (every last one of them) i doubt it. 

4.  craft beer prices are going up, will he bail that out for me, i can’t go back to drink crappy beer like bud or lite.

Wreck-N-Havoc - 10 February 2009 02:32 AM

TBE - 10 February 2009 02:13 AM

HokieHi - 10 February 2009 12:43 AM

TBE - 09 February 2009 11:36 PM

Any bailout is bad.. of course it’s bad. However arguing the same old bla bla is exactly what Obama was voted in to change.

He was voted in to not argue over what? Are you saying that the “bi-partisan” stuff was just talk and that he is going to do what he wants and not listen to anyone else’s ideas? Or, are you trying to say that he’s not going to argue over the same ideas that have been surfacing for the past 8 years?

Bi partisan is Good! Arguing the same tired useless ideology that we’ve heard and lived unsuccessfully for the past 8 years is BAD!

You have now used this in about 8 different posts. and that phrase by obama has become tired and useless because no one says specifically what that means other than the blanket statement. and it makes for a good jabline.  I would argue that I have not lived unsucessfully for that last 8 years and I am by no means a “rich” guy I make far less than a 100,000 a year. 

So between you and Moutain West and I believe Hokie Hi might be a dem..... give me some specifics of what you are talking about with the blanket failed policies statement.    if you are talking bad homeloans… that isn’t policy other than policy from equal housing people that forced banks to make bad loans… and idiot bankers who took unnecessary risks on people who didn’t have the capital to even remotely pay them back.

Conservative Republican here

calhokie - 10 February 2009 01:23 AM

TheRighteousEndOfTheSpear - 09 February 2009 10:21 PM

Classic lib…all you can muster up is more Bush talk and blaming the republicans…everyone give this idiot a hand he has reverted back to the default liberal position…blame the other guy.

If you want to have serious debates, stop condescendingly referring to people as “liberals.”  Now, we can all let this decay into a name-calling fest, but eventually you are going to get ignored.

Dude take a history class then come back and argue with me…you are no where near my level.

The Spear has spoken.

Aren’t you an undergraduate?  I remember those years, thinking I knew everything…

I call em like I see em…If you act like a liberal ill call you a liberal…if you act like an ass ill call you an ass.

And I dont proclaim to know everything…but I know enough to argue my takes and defend my position. I also know that reckless spending and careless aministration is exactly what democrats have persecuted Bush for, but when a democrat does it he is our saving grace. I can fully admit when those in my party screw up…why cant those on the other side of the isle do the same? Or do you have to agree with everything your leaders do?

Bush never did this…spending more than the entire federal budget in one fail swoop…whether you like it or not the economists are on my side. This is reckless and dangerous legislation. The fact that you guys cant even admit that it may be dangerous is a sign of clouded judgment and a narrow mind.

Wreck-N-Havoc - 10 February 2009 01:45 PM

TBE - You didn’t answer the question.

Hokie Hi-  Sorry bout that, guess I got you confused with someone else.

What is your question? I thought I covered it…..