I personally would believe Assange before any of Obama’s puppets. Same types of people who said there were WMDs in Iraq under the Bush administration. Just seems like Obama is trying to pick a fight with Putin on his way out and take a slap at the Donald. And yes, I think that Obama is a big enough partisan, globalist, sore loser to create fake news. He’s a politician right?

Btw, Assange has not been proved to lie about sources yet. He says it’s not the Russians.

Pines is going to have fun with you…LOL

Still don’t believe the intelligence?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-us-cyber-officials-russia-poses-a-major-threat-to-the-countrys-infrastructure-and-networks/2017/01/05/36a60b42-d34c-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.9a362fe9868b

Amazing how dismissive you all when it doesn’t look good for your guy but so willing to believe every little BS negative story about the opposing team.

Just imagine what every conservative blog would be posting if Putin wanted Hillary to win? Wouldn’t it be nice if Republicans actually sided with Americans and not a dictator aiding a rapist blogger?

SoPinesHeel - 06 January 2017 11:50 AM

Still don’t believe the intelligence?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-us-cyber-officials-russia-poses-a-major-threat-to-the-countrys-infrastructure-and-networks/2017/01/05/36a60b42-d34c-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.9a362fe9868b

Amazing how dismissive you all when it doesn’t look good for your guy but so willing to believe every little BS negative story about the opposing team.

Just imagine what every conservative blog would be posting if Putin wanted Hillary to win? Wouldn’t it be nice if Republicans actually sided with Americans and not a dictator aiding a rapist blogger?

I wonder if they could’ve gotten into Hillary’s email - that non-story we were told to ignore because it was partisan. “Amazing how dismissive you all when it doesn’t look good for your guy.”

I wonder why they only went to one side? Or did they?

No one ever said that was good. It just didn’t rise to the level yall claim it did and I was supported by the Republican director of the FBI. Your side? Not really supported by anything but that has never stopped yall. Who needs evidence and truth when you can just believe whatever supports you.

I think we call it making America great again. By great, I mean worse by objective measures. The same ones that you want to discredit when they aren’t to your liking.

SoPinesHeel - 06 January 2017 12:39 PM

I wonder why they only went to one side? Or did they?

No one ever said that was good. It just didn’t rise to the level yall claim it did and I was supported by the Republican director of the FBI. Your side? Not really supported by anything but that has never stopped yall. Who needs evidence and truth when you can just believe whatever supports you.

I think we call it making America great again. By great, I mean worse by objective measures. The same ones that you want to discredit when they aren’t to your liking.

According to Assange, they couldn’t get into Trump’s because of his security, if that’s accurate.

People clearly talked about it being a non-story and a witch hunt of no consequence. Regarding the hacking, the FBI said it was likely that it happened. For those not in the tank for Hillary, that displayed an absolute lack of judgement and complete recklessness - as supported by that same director of the FBI. The difference of opinion from the right and the FBI was about whether it was criminal. The FBI itself was divided on that.

Evidence and truth coming from either side is often a joke but you only acknowledge that from one side. That point has a lot to do with why Trump one.

Look, Countries like China, Russia, India, Israel, and just about any country tries to spy, hack, and obtain information…..Oh yeah…The USA does it too…

The leaks exposed just how corrupt that the the Clintons and the DNC was…it also exposed to the nation the collusion that the liberal media has with the Democratic Party…Nothing that was leaked was refuted…NOTHING…

It was a combination of the truth about people like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazile, the rise of Bernie Sanders and how the DNC tried to destroy him combine with a terrible candidate that did not spend quality time in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina…..A person that has both the money and the ground game and could not close the deal.

Arrogance and taking the voters for granted is what cost the Clintons the election and they are looking for someone to blame and have decided to blame the Russkies…..

It is all rather comical….

CU_Tigers4life - 06 January 2017 01:12 PM

Look, Countries like China, Russia, India, Israel, and just about any country tries to spy, hack, and obtain information…..Oh yeah…The USA does it too…

The leaks exposed just how corrupt that the the Clintons and the DNC was…it also exposed to the nation the collusion that the liberal media has with the Democratic Party…Nothing that was leaked was refuted…NOTHING…

It was a combination of the truth about people like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazile, the rise of Bernie Sanders and how the DNC tried to destroy him combine with a terrible candidate that did not spend quality time in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina…..A person that has both the money and the ground game and could not close the deal.

Arrogance and taking the voters for granted is what cost the Clintons the election and they are looking for someone to blame and have decided to blame the Russkies…..

It is all rather comical….

True. That was after trying to blame uneducated people, Comey, the media, then fake news etc. It does seem like they may stay with Russia for a while - even create an international issue just to blame the election on something else.

There are two separate issues. One is hacking and the other is the election. We’ve known they were hacking and have known China did it etc. for years.  It’s funny that when they get embarrassed by having the truth revealed that it becomes an issue where they want to take action.

As for he election, assuming it was the Russians, it just allowed the truth about the Ds to be revealed. That’s all that happened. Yes, the hacking is a problem, but for the election, it served as nothing but revealing the truth.

SoPinesHeel - 06 January 2017 11:50 AM

Still don’t believe the intelligence?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-us-cyber-officials-russia-poses-a-major-threat-to-the-countrys-infrastructure-and-networks/2017/01/05/36a60b42-d34c-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.9a362fe9868b

Amazing how dismissive you all when it doesn’t look good for your guy but so willing to believe every little BS negative story about the opposing team.

Just imagine what every conservative blog would be posting if Putin wanted Hillary to win? Wouldn’t it be nice if Republicans actually sided with Americans and not a dictator aiding a rapist blogger?

The msn and the dnc colluded to get Bernie out of the way. Definitely influenced the primary. But that was home grown so it’s okay, right?

The Obama administration clearly tried (unsuccessfully) to be influence the reelection of Bibi.

I could go on and on… The snowflakes must always blame someone for their misfortunes. Surely their ideology could not be rejected far and square. Electoral
Collage Scoreboard!

Its like we live in two different realities…I live in actual reality and you all live in conservative bullshit land.

Let me try to tackle this bullshit one turd at a time but it is so overwhelming I can barely stand the smell…

According to Assange? The GUY is a PROVEN liar. The intelligence CLEARLY SHOWS that WikiLeaks got their info directly from the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT. The fact that you guys keep wanting to believe it is not true, after first that it wasn’t Russians, then it didn’t matter in an election literally decided by 80000 votes defies all evidence…but that has been y’alls side from the start.

Yes all countries spy but NO NATION has ever directly intervened in the US Election clearly for one side!!!Can you not see the difference or is your willingness to be so partisan that strong? It is really sad to me that your partisanship “trumps” your patriotism. Of course that is true for an entire national party which is even worse to me. The is no assuming. It was the Russians. Again you will believe every bs fake news story about Hillary Clinton but you pretend there is some doubt as to this and you don’t even as WHY would the Russians want Donald Trump to win? Not one of you has answered that question I posted. It truly is sad.

What truth are you talking about being revealed?? A risotto recipe?? You think the Republican party didn’t have emails disparaging Trump? The Democrats didn’t want Bernie to win because a) HE WASNT A DEMOCRAT and b) he had zero shot of being elected nationally. To think otherwise is a fantasy. Of course they didn’t want him. Why is that even controversial? What else was supposedly corrupt? Ill be here waiting.

You all are so worried about corruption you just voted for a guy that literally and verifiably lies more than any politician ever elected? You know they score these things. He is already breaking every promise he has made and he isn’t in office. He also just had to settle lawsuits for his FRAUDULENT fake university and has a serial history of not paying his contractors and cheating on his wives…and you want to talk to me about corruption?

As to the Israeli stuff that is beyond stupid. Obama campaigned against Netanyahu??? They ACTIVELY lobbied on behalf of Trump and his right wing coalition is OPENLY opposed to the two state solution and are building settlements as fast as they can to prevent it from ever happening. We are the ONLY nation in the world that refuses to condemn it and still havent. We didn’t vote for the resolution we just didn’t veto it and it is about time. Letting that vote happen was the right thing to do and I don’t know why yall are upset about it…your new best friend Russia voted FOR it as did every other ally we have!!!

Take your fake outrage and go spew your bullshit to someone who is too stupid to call you out. I am sure you are surrounded by them in your lives. As long as I am here though it wont happen here.

You got more? Bring it….but better yet go look at the disaster unfolding for your guy right now…Mattis already pissed due to Trump wanting cronies at the Pentagon, Woolsey quitting cause of Trump fantasy ideas and guess what…Mexico wont be paying for any wall. You will be with more deficit spending. Yep, the pile of bullshit just keeps getting bigger and you all can keep eating it up. Ill continue to point out the epic disaster you supported and remind you that the MAJORITY of Americans knew it would happen. Damn that whole democracy thing…much better in places like Russia where “real” leaders don’t have to have opposition.

Good column by Krugman pointing out the useful idiocy in play:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/opinion/useful-idiots-galore.html?WT.mc_id=2016-KWP-AUD_DEV&WT;.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&kwp_0=298003&kwp_4=1148042&kwp_1=526802&_r=0

Vintage Pines….Love It!..Buzz, I hope you are happy now…LOL

I feel better.

SoPinesHeel - 07 January 2017 10:17 AM

I feel better.

I just woke up and need to drink a few cups of coffee before I can really savor that War and Peace response..

Im gonna go to the gym…Ill be around today though.

SoPinesHeel - 07 January 2017 10:22 AM

Im gonna go to the gym…Ill be around today though.

You should have worked out before the reply…LOL

Nahh…that just got the sleep out of my eyes and the blood flowing to combat my hangover.