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Posted: 03 January 2020 04:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Posting what someone says is not punishable under the UCMJ and nothing I say or do is under any official capacity and I have every right to have political beliefs just as you do and make them public.

You don’t get the same freedoms under the UCMJ that a civilian does and you know that.  Also, you hardly ever express any political views unless tricked.  You seem to have a huge memory lapse if all you remember is quoting what someone says.  You have called your Commander In Chief some pretty strong things, accused him of crimes with no proof.  You certainly do have a right to your political beliefs but as a Field Grade Officer you know damn well you have to conduct yourself differently and is subject to the UCMJ.  As I said, if one of your subordinates conducted himself/herself in such and manner and you discover such conduct you would have them up on charges.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 12:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Yeah okay, thanks for that. You live in lala land if you think the military is apolitical. I sit and look at senior ranking officers Facebook pages all the time and get a dose of their politics constantly. For the white ones you can guess who they support. Non white? A little different. But hey who cares about them right?

If I disciplined every Trump supporter who runs their mouth at work, well…I wouldn’t do anything else. Non Trump supporters deal with it daily. Anyhoo out of a squadron now so don’t have to hear it as much.

Again, check the oath. It isn’t to a man and if that man violates his oath it is actually my duty to oppose him. Sorry that bothers you but your feeble attempt to “get me” fails again. Funny as someone who likes those Nuremberg rallies your boy throws, you don’t get the other lesson from that city that blindly following a criminal is not a defense when they come for you. Rest assured they will.
Just ask Jim Mattis. He quit and rightfully so.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 08:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Check the Oath?  How about checking the law.  Enough of this.

Article 88 of the UCMJ:

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


Maximum punishment. Dismissal, forfeiture of all
pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.


It’s not illegal to dislike the President.  It’s illegal to use the type of “contemptuous words” that you commonly use in a public forum.

When you take that oath, you surrender a lot of your first amendment rights. If you allow subordinates to publicly violate the UCMJ on this matter, it doesn’t make any less illegal. You just permit it.

SO. With that said, I guess you are more of a “Do as I say” instead of a “Do as I do” type of leader.  The next time you accuse the President of a crime or express your hated and vitriol you are the same criminal that you are accusing Trump of being.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 10:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Wow, you are suddenly concerned with your interpretation of legality? Good googling.
Report me. I know you go look at my Facebook page so you can figure out the details.
Make sure you get upset at the next person you know to be in the military who says negative things about Nancy Pelosi too. I’m sure you pull out your googled UCMJ line and waive it in their face like the good and even handed Scout leader you are.

Is it illegal to lie about buying off a porn star to cover up your adultery?
That is a fact. Not debatable. It is a felony campaign finance violation.

It is illegal to accept foreign money while in office.
He has not divested himself of his business and he does it all the time and it is well documented.
It is spelled out right in the constitution that is illegal. Remember that thing you used to claim you held so dear? My oath is to that. Not him.

It is illegal to extort a a foreign entity to help your political campaign.
Trump openly admits he did it and his chief of staff said they “do it all the time” and we should “get over it”

I don’t accept those things. Among hundreds of other crimes and improprieties too.
You obviously do. What do you think St Reagan would say about the president standing with Vladimir Putin and taking his side publicly against the United States?  That is called Traiterous and you would have been railing if the Kenyan Muslim had done it.

You never ever have any credibility to lecture anyone else on their living up to their oath and behavior.
You willingly sold that credibility and you will never get it back.
I’m sorry you have lower standards. Again, report me.
Or just fuck off.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Wow, you are suddenly concerned with your interpretation of legality? Good googling.
Report me. I know you go look at my Facebook page so you can figure out the details.
Make sure you get upset at the next person you know to be in the military who says negative things about Nancy Pelosi too. I’m sure you pull out your googled UCMJ line and waive it in their face like the good and even handed Scout leader you are.

Is it illegal to lie about buying off a porn star to cover up your adultery?
That is a fact. Not debatable. It is a felony campaign finance violation.

It is illegal to accept foreign money while in office.
He has not divested himself of his business and he does it all the time and it is well documented.
It is spelled out right in the constitution that is illegal. Remember that thing you used to claim you held so dear? My oath is to that. Not him.

It is illegal to extort a a foreign entity to help your political campaign.
Trump openly admits he did it and his chief of staff said they “do it all the time” and we should “get over it”

I don’t accept those things. Among hundreds of other crimes and improprieties too.
You obviously do. What do you think St Reagan would say about the president standing with Vladimir Putin and taking his side publicly against the United States?  That is called Traiterous and you would have been railing if the Kenyan Muslim had done it.

You never ever have any credibility to lecture anyone else on their living up to their oath and behavior.
You willingly sold that credibility and you will never get it back.
I’m sorry you have lower standards. Again, report me.
Or just fuck off.

It is also illegal to badmouth the President publicly…be sure to add yourself in future accusations of crimes…


The exact answer I expected…Deflect and display your hypocrisy at its very finest. The next time you make your usual accusations be sure to look in the mirror.  You’ve been making these statements for years while putting yourself on a pedestal long before Trump came to office.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 12:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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You seriously need to look up the definition of deflect. You don’t understand that word just like you don’t understand movies and current events and politics and obviously morality.

I answered you directly and refuted your claim that I wrongly accuse the president of crimes without proof. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Sorry about your lower standards. If only there was some guide you could use that would you improve yourself. Maybe a teacher that would tel you about who to follow and who to not support? Someone who sacrificed a lot to do the same?

But yeah, I’ve abandoned god. Lol. Says they guy who supports some who thinks it’s “two corinthians” Fuck off.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 12:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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3 F’bombs in just a few replies…

#triggered

 

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Posted: 04 January 2020 01:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 January 2020 12:28 PM

I answered you directly and refuted your claim that I wrongly accuse the president of crimes without proof. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

You accused him of collusion with Russia and even treason - one of the highest crimes in existence. You did it without proof, and we know that because there wasn’t any proof. You even did it when being cautioned to wait for the evidence. You weren’t willing to do that, so yes you continually wrongly accused him of crimes without proof.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 01:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Curggr - 04 January 2020 01:09 PM
SoPinesHeel - 04 January 2020 12:28 PM

I answered you directly and refuted your claim that I wrongly accuse the president of crimes without proof. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

You accused him of collusion with Russia and even treason - one of the highest crimes in existence. You did it without proof, and we know that because there wasn’t any proof. You even did it when being cautioned to wait for the evidence. You weren’t willing to do that, so yes you continually wrongly accused him of crimes without proof.

This is a crime that Pines committed…He’s big on doing that while not looking at himself…

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Posted: 04 January 2020 04:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Curggr - 04 January 2020 01:09 PM
SoPinesHeel - 04 January 2020 12:28 PM

I answered you directly and refuted your claim that I wrongly accuse the president of crimes without proof. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

You accused him of collusion with Russia and even treason - one of the highest crimes in existence. You did it without proof, and we know that because there wasn’t any proof. You even did it when being cautioned to wait for the evidence. You weren’t willing to do that, so yes you continually wrongly accused him of crimes without proof.

No evidence huh?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/6/11/17438386/trump-russia-collusion

YOU defend him despite evidence but we know you aren’t someone that stands up when called by your country so no surprise there.  Nobody gives a shit what you think freeloader. You can tag out now.

 

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Posted: 04 January 2020 04:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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CU_Tigers4life - 04 January 2020 12:35 PM

3 F’bombs in just a few replies…

#triggered

Does that offend you? Maybe you can run tell the moderators so you can save yourself.

https://thefederalist.com/2016/02/26/watch-trump-drop-the-f-bomb-5-times-in-74-seconds/

I can tell it upsets you so much you vote for it.

Strange I have not been charged with anything. Obviously that means I’m innocent then right? I mean that’s the defense you are saying?
Caught in your own trap you think you set. So fucking stupid as usual.

Want to tell me about Dr Strangelove now?

 

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Posted: 04 January 2020 04:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 04 January 2020 04:09 PM

YOU defend him despite evidence but we know you aren’t someone that stands up when called by your country so no surprise there.  Nobody gives a shit what you think freeloader. You can tag out now.

 

You give a shit, that’s why you went and found something you consider as a source that might help you. I’ll go with the conclusions of the investigation rather than the interpretation of someone at Vox.

Funny to get an insult from someone so unhinged his rants are criminal.

Maybe you are like Colonel Jessup after all. We should clear the courtroom; the witness has rights.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 04:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Article 88 of the UCMJ:

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


Maximum punishment. Dismissal, forfeiture of all
pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

Every time you post anti Trump speech you are violating the very law you are sworn to follow.  Every time you called him a traitor, the many other “contemptuous” words you have use is against the UCMJ. 

Do you deny that you are in violation of the UCMJ?  When you called your Commander In Chief a Traitor, a crime he’s never been arrested, tried or convicted, you have not broken Military law?

He can be guilty of everything your tinfoil hat Rachael Maddow conspiracies have been bloviating about and you still are not allow to say a thing publicly.

You are the fraud and hypocrite

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Posted: 04 January 2020 05:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Nah, not quite but I appreciate your interpretation counselor. Feel free to report me. Did you see my cool photos? I know you are jealous and stalking me.

It’s why you can’t stop responding.

As to the other bitch, The conclusions to the investigation that resulted in multiple felony convictions, 22 Russian to campaign contacts and 12 instances of obstruction of justice? Yeah you should go with that. What a fucking dumbass to walk right into that one.

I know you think watching movies makes you tough. Some of us actually live what you dream about.
You directly address me, I respond. But no I don’t give a shit what you think. People who talk tough and write checks that people like me cash aren’t worthy of it.

I’m sorry bone spurs have been hard for you. They seem to run in wastes of space, that don’t earn what they have. That’s why they have never been a problem in my family.

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Posted: 04 January 2020 08:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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And it’s CU_Tigers4Life by TKO….

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