The Football Schools will Lose Money With the 9 Game Schedule
Posted: 03 February 2012 04:16 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Time to start up another firestorm.  Both Clemson and FSU have big games on their schedule that will be in jeopardy depending on when the 9 game schedule goes down.

FSU will be in a series with WVU and Clemson starts a series with UGA.  These games are in jeopardy and will most like be replaced with basketball schools like Syracuse or Pitt , Duke Etc with will mean small crowds when we have to go on the road.

Also, with a 9 team schedule, we may lose a home game.

That may not be a big deal to a basketball school that makes more money when they come to the Valley, Lane or the Doak, but it matters.

Even if we survive these games in the short term, Clemson won’t be able to take on 2 SEC teams and FSU cannot play UF and some other horse in OCC play.

This stinks the more I look at it

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Posted: 03 February 2012 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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TV money will be alot bigger…as more product to sell. There is no rule that says you have to play Furman every year. I think we are about to see non FBS games no longer count for bowls too so keep one and play two BCS games.

FBS is about to pull away from the rest of D1 in the near future and the BCS may even pull away from the rest of FBS. 9 game schedule will be beneficial in the future for all.

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Posted: 03 February 2012 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Funny that bball schools like Cuse and Pitt have more Heismans and Championships than alot of self annointed football schools…

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Posted: 03 February 2012 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 03 February 2012 04:22 PM

TV money will be alot bigger…as more product to sell. There is no rule that says you have to play Furman every year. I think we are about to see non FBS games no longer count for bowls too so keep one and play two BCS games.

FBS is about to pull away from the rest of D1 in the near future and the BCS may even pull away from the rest of FBS. 9 game schedule will be beneficial in the future for all.

Again, to a basketball school with small crowds, the FBS game may not matter.  The FBS game provides a few big things.  Revenue is the first.  The FBS or “money” game great helps football programs keep up with the “Jones’s” if you will.  Also, those FBS schools really count on the 400,000 or so play a school like Clemson or FSU.  The majority of the budget is based on games like that.

TV money may help the Basketball school, but I am not so sure about football schools.

You can only play so many big teams in OOC play.

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Posted: 03 February 2012 04:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yeah TV money doesnt matter to Clemson at all…its not like it has allowed you to go on a football spending spree or anything….once again dumb, but thanks for the pandering to us mere “basketball” schools that save your bacon time and time again.

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Posted: 03 February 2012 04:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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SoPinesHeel - 03 February 2012 04:23 PM

Funny that bball schools like Cuse and Pitt have more Heismans and Championships than alot of self annointed football schools…

I like how you make that extremely weak argument…..sPitt and Cuse many many moons ago decided to stop being a football program and take the cheaper path of playing great basketball

Since you are invoking ancient history again, Clemson’s National Championship…those 30 years ago is still more recent than any Heisman or National title from sPitt of Cuse.

 

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Posted: 03 February 2012 05:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Donovan McNabb and Larry Fitzgerald were guys that Clemson didn’t want too I am sure so they ended up at Basketball schools.
I seem to remember a Gator Bowl against Syracuse in Clemson’s past too…seems like they do more than play basketball.

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Posted: 03 February 2012 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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FSU will play Florida… no matter what.

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Posted: 03 February 2012 07:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Syracuse averaged 40K in attendance for 2011
Pitt Averaged 46K in 2011


UGA Averages 92K
Florida Averages 89K
Oklahoma Average: 85K

FSU and Clemson will keep UF and USC but we won’t get a second big money game in.

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Posted: 03 February 2012 11:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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One thing that may be overlooked is the new per team payout in the league’s new reconfigured TV contract after expansion. From what I’ve read each team can expect $20-23 million per year, well above the present of around $13-15 million. Add to that the potential for increased revenue from league championships and mulitple teams (is that you Clemson and FSU?) in the BCS. It’s plausible this new game will increase revenues. Of course, the Citadel, and S. Alabama may get squeezed out.

Edit to add: This basketball, soccer, baseball school would lose a lot if they miss out on a 70,000 seat game with minimum tickets at $50 per. Again, what’s referenced above may make that up.

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Posted: 04 February 2012 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I would be very surprised if Pitt ans Cuse placed 7 million dollars PER SCHOOL in a schools coffer.  There is no way these 2 schools would add 100 million per year.  Someone would have to show me the math on how that happens.  We don’t have a ACC network where we can charge subscription up and down the Atlantic Coast.

The second “Big” game will get removed over the “money game”.  The FBS game isn’t going away.  The BCS schools need the revenue and tune-up and those little schools count on those games to support there ss\chool athletics.  A School like Citadel probably would have to end most of their sports if they didn’t 400-500K to get the stuffing beat out of them.

We also lose the chance to compete on a national level.  I remember the excellent Home and Home UNC did with Notre Dame.  That helped UNC and it was a national televised game. Now you lose that to become a regional game against a marginal at best Pitt

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Posted: 04 February 2012 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Unless Pitt and Syracuse have a breakout in Football,  The ACC is taking a step back in the current state of modern college football in the BCS ERA and not things that happen in the days of leather helmets and no cable TV

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Posted: 04 February 2012 09:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Here are the calculations, I don’t think the ACC will get $20 million a year, but it could be very close.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/ACC/view/acc-fixin-to-get-paid

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Posted: 04 February 2012 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Garrett_TD23 - 04 February 2012 09:55 AM

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Here are the calculations, I don’t think the ACC will get $20 million a year, but it could be very close.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/ACC/view/acc-fixin-to-get-paid


How much would the BIG 12 add with bringing in the State of Florida, South Carolina (probably Ga and NC as neighboring states) and the Virginia’s and maybe even Kentucky?

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Posted: 04 February 2012 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I know this. Everywhere I go and talk to Clemson and FSU fans they ask about both moving into the Big 12.

Like all this other expansion stuff, who knows? And most of what you read is rumor. We’ve taken an approach on it that when it’s official, it’s official.

Last night I ran into a very plugged in doctor who’s a big Clemson fan. So much so, he attends Dabo’s old guys camp. He asked me what I knew. He heard things.. basically the same stuff you guys have been going back and forth on.

Regardless, there sure is smoke. What that means, who knows.

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Posted: 04 February 2012 10:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I will believe until proven otherwise that Texas rules the Big12 from Austin. If they decide it’s best for them to go elsewhere the Big12 will be no more. If up to 2 teams leave the ACC the ACC will go on. I’m not sure the Big12 is all that much better of a place to be. If we’re basically talking rumors and what-if’s…. When the ACC does renegotiate it’s contract, and the new BCS excludes ND… ND has been rumored to have the ACC at the top of it’s potential conferences to join. If that were to happen whatever money that has been conjectured up to now will be miniscule when compared to new possibilities. When comparing.. what sounds better, a trip to Ames, Ia or a trip to South Bend, Indiana?

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