While every SEC list would have Bear Bryant at the top, Bear Bryant was at a school that had already won titles before him and a place that puts everything it has into the football program.
The fact that Spurrier has taken 3 different schools from the bottom to the top in two different leagues makes him the top coach IMHO. The fact that two of those schools are South Carolina and Duke are only icing on the cake…
He might be up for greatest coach of all time if he had won in the NFL…
spurrier was never going to do well in the NFL, he loves himself too much. Im still waiting on Pete Carrol to implode…but I give him mad props for what hes done. His visor tossing has decresed by atleast 75% at carolina in only a few short years, and that my friends, is a clear sign of a good HBC
spurrier was never going to do well in the NFL, he loves himself too much. Im still waiting on Pete Carrol to implode…but I give him mad props for what hes done. His visor tossing has decresed by atleast 75% at carolina in only a few short years, and that my friends, is a clear sign of a good HBC
Although I don’t like Spurrier, I too will agree woth Sopines…..SOS has done a great job at every college gig he had….Can’t deny that. Anyone should be able to win anywhere with unlimited resource, but what SOS did a Duke and USC was nothing short of a miracle…..........And when SCAR loses SOS, they will be like Duke again….lol
Steve Spurrier has coached at Duke, Florida and South Carolina. Currently at South Carolina, a state university playing in the nation’s 2nd best conference, he has the revenue within his reach to do what he wants inside his program.
At Florida he was a few miles from the best talent in the country and the money to match anyone. At SC he’s recruited the top player in America the past couple of years, so he can get players.
I think Spurrier was a great coach. While at Duke…. then he got to believing how good he is at Florida because of his resources and what he is now is a mere shell of a good coach.
If you can’t win at South Carolina, a great state for talent, rabid fan base and playing in a great league like the SEC…. there is a problem. And he hasn’t really won big at SC.
Average coach…..... in my opinion and not worthy of mentioned in the likes of Bear, Saban, Dooley, Majors etc. His perception isn’t his reality..
The question is could Spurrier go to Iowa State or back to Duke now and win? NO…. programs and brand win games by getting great players and great coaches maintain or grow the brand and win. Spurrier hasn’t added anything to SC but his name. Now a young Spurrier at SC would have much much more success on the field. This old one is simply making money and winding down.
Steve Spurrier has coached at Duke, Florida and South Carolina. Currently at South Carolina, a state university playing in the nation’s 2nd best conference, he has the revenue within his reach to do what he wants inside his program.
At Florida he was a few miles from the best talent in the country and the money to match anyone. At SC he’s recruited the top player in America the past couple of years, so he can get players.
I think Spurrier was a great coach. While at Duke…. then he got to believing how good he is at Florida because of his resources and what he is now is a mere shell of a good coach.
If you can’t win at South Carolina, a great state for talent, rabid fan base and playing in a great league like the SEC…. there is a problem. And he hasn’t really won big at SC.
Average coach…..... in my opinion and not worthy of mentioned in the likes of Bear, Saban, Dooley, Majors etc. His perception isn’t his reality..
The question is could Spurrier go to Iowa State or back to Duke now and win? NO…. programs and brand win games by getting great players and great coaches maintain or grow the brand and win. Spurrier hasn’t added anything to SC but his name. Now a young Spurrier at SC would have much much more success on the field. This old one is simply making money and winding down.
TB12 I know you like to be contrary but really? The 2nd best conference? Whats the first? The Big 12? Come on man.
I also don’t think you understand the University of South Carolina very well or its history.
TB12 I know you like to be contrary but really? The 2nd best conference? Whats the first? The Big 12? Come on man.
I also don’t think you understand the University of South Carolina very well or its history.
Ya, i mean were talking about a team that went goal posting vs new mexico state a little more than a decade ago. look at Pre-Spurrier SCAR, its pretty funny actually.
Steve Spurrier has coached at Duke, Florida and South Carolina. Currently at South Carolina, a state university playing in the nation’s 2nd best conference, he has the revenue within his reach to do what he wants inside his program.
At Florida he was a few miles from the best talent in the country and the money to match anyone. At SC he’s recruited the top player in America the past couple of years, so he can get players.
I think Spurrier was a great coach. While at Duke…. then he got to believing how good he is at Florida because of his resources and what he is now is a mere shell of a good coach.
If you can’t win at South Carolina, a great state for talent, rabid fan base and playing in a great league like the SEC…. there is a problem. And he hasn’t really won big at SC.
Average coach…..... in my opinion and not worthy of mentioned in the likes of Bear, Saban, Dooley, Majors etc. His perception isn’t his reality..
The question is could Spurrier go to Iowa State or back to Duke now and win? NO…. programs and brand win games by getting great players and great coaches maintain or grow the brand and win. Spurrier hasn’t added anything to SC but his name. Now a young Spurrier at SC would have much much more success on the field. This old one is simply making money and winding down.
You lost all credibility with the ‘2nd best conference’ thing. Average coach? Second to Bear Bryant in SEC wins. No one has won at South Carolina before why is it easy for Spurrier? If anything you could say anyone could win at Alabama or LSU. If Saban was such a great coach he could go to Ole Miss and win right? Yes Spurrier could go anywhere and win and he’s proven it. What an idiotic post.
Well heres the thing, im pretty sure Saban could go anywhere and win at this point in his career, just like Spurrier. Steve could turn around tomorrow and say “i want to give back to the place that gave me my start” and take over at Duke. And he would be successful there. Sure hed have a little trouble recruiting because of the accademic standards, but his name alone is what would draw them. The reason he didnt do well in the Pros is because you dont recruit and develop talent in the pros the way you do in CFB. Its the same for any big name college coach.
Les Miles, Saban, Spurrier…they could all go to any school in any conference in any division and be successful there. Not because they are good coaches (im not saying they arent but stay with me) but because they are a house hold name. And South Carolina is a great example: Clemson for the past 100 years has been the clear football power in SC and theres no debating that, but when steve steps into the picture you gave the in state recruits something to consider: Do i wanna go play for Tommy Bowden at Clemson, or Steve Spurrier at Carolina? and here we are today.
i just want to reiterate that im not trying to say that they arent great coaches, but merely trying to refute the whole “he won at school A, could he win at school B?” argument. There are Marquee programs in this country, So Cal, Ohio, LSU, Bama, etc. and the coaches there might be great coaches, or they might just be good coaches at a great program, BUT when they are there long enough that program prestige rubs off, and now, no matter how mediocre that coach’s abilities actually may be, other schools will persue him, assistants will want to work for him, players will want to play for him.
Well heres the thing, im pretty sure Saban could go anywhere and win at this point in his career, just like Spurrier. Steve could turn around tomorrow and say “i want to give back to the place that gave me my start” and take over at Duke. And he would be successful there. Sure hed have a little trouble recruiting because of the accademic standards, but his name alone is what would draw them. The reason he didnt do well in the Pros is because you dont recruit and develop talent in the pros the way you do in CFB. Its the same for any big name college coach.
Les Miles, Saban, Spurrier…they could all go to any school in any conference in any division and be successful there. Not because they are good coaches (im not saying they arent but stay with me) but because they are a house hold name. And South Carolina is a great example: Clemson for the past 100 years has been the clear football power in SC and theres no debating that, but when steve steps into the picture you gave the in state recruits something to consider: Do i wanna go play for Tommy Bowden at Clemson, or Steve Spurrier at Carolina? and here we are today.
i just want to reiterate that im not trying to say that they arent great coaches, but merely trying to refute the whole “he won at school A, could he win at school B?” argument. There are Marquee programs in this country, So Cal, Ohio, LSU, Bama, etc. and the coaches there might be great coaches, or they might just be good coaches at a great program, BUT when they are there long enough that program prestige rubs off, and now, no matter how mediocre that coach’s abilities actually may be, other schools will persue him, assistants will want to work for him, players will want to play for him.
Good points but when Spurrier was at Duke no one knew who he was and was busting down the door to play / coach for him. And he won. The guy is a great coach, x and o’s guy, and play caller.
ya, like i said, im not trying to dispute the fact that steve is a good coach, hes not the best example but we were talking about him.
Lou Holtz is probably a better example thinking of carolina coaches, He had a storied career, but for the most part at programs with an amazing football tradition. He came in and turned Carolina around for sure, but when you look at the numbers he left you have to wonder, was all his success because he was a good coach that coached at ND or was it because hes a great coach.
interesting side note, anyone notice which school is conspicuously not represented in “Dr. Lou’s” office?
As far as being good for southern football, as a player or coach, ACC, SEC, USFL, he is invaluable. The guy is a living cartoon and I still think he may be the devil, but he is great at what he does. For every thousands of people who love him there are just as many who don’t like him at all….but we all still have to pay attention to him. Since 1964…the jacka$$.
