I’ve read this coming from the same internet poster several times, but often ignored it because it did not concern me. It smelled like BS from the start, but i’m open to the idea that I could be wrong.

Think back to 2003-2005 when the ACC expanded. I have read from this anonymous poster that FSU “demanded” that BC, Syracuse and Miami come to the ACC and was against VT coming over, but some how through this demanding they got 7/9 votes from the rest of the members to go along with it. We know the rest of the history with the Virginia governor getting involved.

The other accusation is that FSU demanded that the 4 North Carolina schools divide up in seperate divisions and FSU demanded to be in the same divisions with Clemson, but of all the list of demands FSU did not demand to play GT annually.

Keep in mind that this is what one poster said and I have never heard it from anyone else or even read something from a credible news source even remotely close to this. The only 2 accusations that I could see being true is that FSU demanding (because we all know FSU runs the conference like a dictatorship)l to play the ACCCG in Jacksonville and have Miami in a seperate division.

So if anyone can help me out, I’d like to know the truth and a link to confirm if any of these accusations are true.

I cant speak to that stuff other than that FSU chose to join the ACC and now they are complaining about it.

The ACC divisions were split for the benefit of Miami and FSU so they could play each other in the championship game which was then put in Florida in two different locations. It was a disaster, the two never have met for the championship and now FSU is complaining about the divisions and threatening to leave. Perfect.

I was always in favor of geography and would love to be in a division with the other NC schools. It is my hope that a 16 team ACC will allow that. I wish the ACC was smaller not larger and everyone played everybody but that is not reality so I say go to 16 and give us more regionality. It would also allow FSU to be in a division with GT, Clemson, and Miami also which they now seem to be in favor of also.

SoPinesHeel - 16 June 2012 10:43 AM

I cant speak to that stuff other than that FSU chose to join the ACC and now they are complaining about it.

The ACC divisions were split for the benefit of Miami and FSU so they could play each other in the championship game which was then put in Florida in two different locations. It was a disaster, the two never have met for the championship and now FSU is complaining about the divisions and threatening to leave. Perfect.

I was always in favor of geography and would love to be in a division with the other NC schools. It is my hope that a 16 team ACC will allow that. I wish the ACC was smaller not larger and everyone played everybody but that is not reality so I say go to 16 and give us more regionality. It would also allow FSU to be in a division with GT, Clemson, and Miami also which they now seem to be in favor of also.

You are pretty much spot on. I don’t think it is likely to see a Geographically friendly division that would put Clemson, GT,FSU and Miami in one and essentially giving VT and maybe UNC a very easy path to the ACCCG…

My idea would be pods where there were semi’s and a championship game which would breed interest and compensate for one pod being tougher than another. You play your 3 pod members then rotate 6 other opponents. No harder or less hard than now and would breed interest in conference race.

FSU fans are not complaining about Miami playing in the opposite division, we get to play them every year regardless. From my understanding everybody was in agreement that it ought to be that way to get everyone exposure in the Sunshine state.

I’m not sure who was pushing the ACCCG game in Jacksonville, that’s something I would like to read up on. Just because the game was in Florida does not mean FSU was making demands that it to be there. In hindsight it was a bad move, but at the time it made sense. It was centrally located for the 4 southern most football schools and likely Jacksonville out bid Charlotte and Tampa.

I would love to see a link rather than speculate after so many years.

I think it made sense to do and through bad luck and timing it ended up being a disaster. If my memory serves, Charlotte actually did not initially bid on the game for some odd reason (something to do with the Richardson family and the panthers) and then realized their mistake and it has been two great successful games there as a result. I hope it anchors in Charlotte but would not mind seeing it move to another location every couple of years like maybe DC or even Jacksonville again.

I think it is in Charlotte for a while though while it continues to build.