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Posted: 21 June 2012 08:39 PM   [ Ignore ]
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This is amazing… and will get you pumped for the season. Tavon is the most exciting player in America. It’s not that long… check him out against LSU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3UOd9_Tkw

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Posted: 21 June 2012 11:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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No doubt WVU will do well this year in the Big 12…

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Posted: 21 June 2012 11:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Yeah.. he’s good.. he’s gonna win the heisman.

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Posted: 21 June 2012 11:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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too bad he can’t play defense.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 12:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I am sure that his stats were helped out by playing in the Big East, but there is no doubt that he is one of the most electrifying players in the country.

TB, we know that Austin is WVU’s most electric player, but do you think he is a better pro prospect that Stedman Bailey? I know I have heard many people say that Bailey is the better receiver prospect. I defer to you since you are the WVU fan.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 01:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Well, I’m gonna say that I don’t know who this Bailey cat is, but Tavon Austin would be a straight baller in any conference… Percy Harvin eat your heart out.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 01:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Taking their particular skill sets… Tavon Austin and Sammy Watkins are both the #1 receivers in the nation… But Sammy is the best “true” receiver in the country.

But I haven’t seen Dorial Green-Beckham yet.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Matt O - 22 June 2012 12:31 AM

I am sure that his stats were helped out by playing in the Big East

This statement kinda irks me.

Austin’s combined Receiving/Rushing totals last season:

vs. Maryland (ACC)  122 yards
vs. LSU (SEC champ)  187 yards
vs. Connecticut 69 yards
vs. Syracuse 60 yards
vs. Rutgers 163 yards
vs. Louisville 110 yards
vs. Cincinnati 132 yards
vs. Pittsburgh 121 yards
vs. South Florida 67 yards
vs. Clemson (ACC champ) 163 yards

Average vs. ACC teams:  142.5 yards/game
Average vs. SEC teams:  187 yards/game
Average vs. Big East teams:  103 yards/game

By the stats, one could argue just the opposite.  Care to retract?

 

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Posted: 22 June 2012 10:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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fiercey - 22 June 2012 10:14 AM
Matt O - 22 June 2012 12:31 AM

I am sure that his stats were helped out by playing in the Big East

This statement kinda irks me.

Austin’s combined Receiving/Rushing totals last season:

vs. Maryland (ACC)  122 yards
vs. LSU (SEC champ)  187 yards
vs. Connecticut 69 yards
vs. Syracuse 60 yards
vs. Rutgers 163 yards
vs. Louisville 110 yards
vs. Cincinnati 132 yards
vs. Pittsburgh 121 yards
vs. South Florida 67 yards
vs. Clemson (ACC champ) 163 yards

Average vs. ACC teams:  142.5 yards/game
Average vs. SEC teams:  187 yards/game
Average vs. Big East teams:  103 yards/game

By the stats, one could argue just the opposite.  Care to retract?

No.

WVU threw the ball 65 times against LSU and 49 times against Maryland. Those were the two games in which WVU attempted the most passes. When pass attempts go up, receiving yards tend to go up.

As I said, Austin is a tremendous player who would be successful in any conference. I just think his stats were slightly aided by playing in the weakest BCS conference. Not a slight against his taent….just the overall competitiveness of the conference.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 11:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Matt O - 22 June 2012 10:30 AM

No.

WVU threw the ball 65 times against LSU and 49 times against Maryland. Those were the two games in which WVU attempted the most passes. When pass attempts go up, receiving yards tend to go up.

As I said, Austin is a tremendous player who would be successful in any conference. I just think his stats were slightly aided by playing in the weakest BCS conference. Not a slight against his taent….just the overall competitiveness of the conference.

So if Austin, as a receiver, gets fewer passes per game against Big East teams… how is that helping his stats again?  It hurt him by playing Big East teams.

Let’s just look at yards/catch then.

Austin’s game with the most yards/catch?  vs. SEC champ LSU at 17 yards/catch.

He averaged 10.7 yards/catch vs. ACC teams.  Only 10.5 yards/catch vs. Big East teams. 

Again, I can’t see how playing in the Big East has helped his stats.

Receptions per game?

11 vs. LSU
11 vs. Maryland
12 vs. Clemson

7.7 average vs. Big East teams.

I’m confused here.  Back to your original statement:

“I am sure that his stats were helped out by playing in the Big East”.

I don’t see anything in any of these numbers to suggest that Tavon Austin’s stats were helped out in *any* way by playing Big East teams.

Just bein’ fair here.

 

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Posted: 22 June 2012 02:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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vs BE 13.38 YPC
vs Clemson 14.82 YPC
vs LSU 17.00 YPC
vs MD 11.09 YPC

Im not commenting on either side of the argument, but those are the yards per catch averages

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Posted: 22 June 2012 05:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Dude is a stud in any conference.

But I will say that if he had to play against SEC defenses every week his numbers wouldn’t be as inflated.

He’ll be just as good, if not better, in the Big 12.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 09:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Matt O - 22 June 2012 10:30 AM
fiercey - 22 June 2012 10:14 AM
Matt O - 22 June 2012 12:31 AM

I am sure that his stats were helped out by playing in the Big East

This statement kinda irks me.

Austin’s combined Receiving/Rushing totals last season:

vs. Maryland (ACC)  122 yards
vs. LSU (SEC champ)  187 yards
vs. Connecticut 69 yards
vs. Syracuse 60 yards
vs. Rutgers 163 yards
vs. Louisville 110 yards
vs. Cincinnati 132 yards
vs. Pittsburgh 121 yards
vs. South Florida 67 yards
vs. Clemson (ACC champ) 163 yards

Average vs. ACC teams:  142.5 yards/game
Average vs. SEC teams:  187 yards/game
Average vs. Big East teams:  103 yards/game

By the stats, one could argue just the opposite.  Care to retract?

No.

WVU threw the ball 65 times against LSU and 49 times against Maryland. Those were the two games in which WVU attempted the most passes. When pass attempts go up, receiving yards tend to go up.

As I said, Austin is a tremendous player who would be successful in any conference. I just think his stats were slightly aided by playing in the weakest BCS conference. Not a slight against his taent….just the overall competitiveness of the conference.

Your whole point is ridiculous as soon as you said the Big East was the weakest conference in the BCS last year. It wasn’t…. will be, but wasn’t last year. I think that point was clearly made with the Big East putting 70 on the ACC champ after calling off the dogs at halftime. Could have been 100.

If he would have had an SEC national TV schedule behind him, he would have been a first team all american on offense instead of all purpose.

He and Bailey are two different types of receivers. Tavon is an inside receiver and return guy. Bailey is an outside receiver. Not a possession receiver, he runs sub 4.5… but more of an outside threat. Who knows who’s the better pro. Depends what the particular team that drafts them needs.

One on one you can’t get a hand on Tavon Austin. Nobody can…

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Posted: 23 June 2012 10:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I was looking forward to seeing he match up against Greg Reid in Tallahassee. Too bad that won’t happen. They are the two quickest players in football in my opinion.

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Posted: 23 June 2012 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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1stNNole - 23 June 2012 10:57 AM

I was looking forward to seeing he match up against Greg Reid in Tallahassee. Too bad that won’t happen. They are the two quickest players in football in my opinion.

I totally agree. Greg Reid has quicks. That would have been fun to watch. It’s a shame they don’t play him on offense. He could be Tavon ‘like’ for FSU.

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Posted: 23 June 2012 05:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Didn’t know the big east put 70 on the ACC last year. Were entire conferences playing? Calling off the dogs…no way. That was WVU getting revenge for getting snubbed for membership. A realignment beatdown if you will.

The facts don’t back your argument about not being the worst BCS conference…not that the ACC was great. It wasn’t and trailed the MWC thanks to Boise St, but better than the Big East who trailed CUSA.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/33005/acc-slips-in-conference-power-rankings

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