Just saw this…a little late but still funny…

And from Tomahawk nation…I saw this insightful reply to the thread about the Orange Bowl likely deal
Even some FSU haters give some credit where credit is due:

This is not his fault, but ours. This is what we get for BOT Chairman Haggard shooting his mouth off about going to another conference.
If you’re really in talks to do something like that, YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND DON’T TALK ABOUT IT until it’s done.
If you’re not, you SHUT THE HELL UP AND DON’T TALK ABOUT IT because doing so queers the relationships you have in your current conference, and you still need to work with them on other things.

Sense a common thread?

BOT chairmen who talk about matters pertaining to the university have a tendency to be believed. It’s not the fault of Swofford an the rest of the ACC that they took him at his word and reacted accordingly. That’s what you do when powerful people speak about things under their control. Haggard was talking out of his ass, but they don’t know that-they have to react as if he’s not.
And now they have.
For making the ACC worry about their own membership, they have now imposed a buyout so high that nobody can pay it without a massive fundraising effort that does nothing to help the program, which would be both hard to justify in this economy and impossible to hide for very long at any rate.

You want to blame someone for us getting locked into the ACC for all eternity? Blame former BOT chairman Andy Haggard.
What he said in public was not only blitheringly idiotic., but the new buyout rule-which is nothing more than a stupidity tax-is the direct consequence of his comments. When I said back in May that his words “may have cost us tens of millions of dollars”, I didn’t know it would look like this, but now that it does, I’m not surprised at all. What little excitement was generated has now been replaced by a burden that is twice as heavy as before, and for what? So that we could feel good about ourselves for a couple of weeks in the summer? We can now say it with certainty: Haggard’s statement was poison for our hope of conference realignment.

To see how it is done right, Swofford’s actions with ND are instructive here: think about how many little details had to be ironed out-how long had they been working on it to get that deal just right? It must have taken months, if not years. And when did anyone outside of those boardrooms know what was going on? At the press conference, when it was all done and signed. That’s how you’re supposed to do things like this.
You think the Big East liked Swofford doing that? Hell no! His negotiations have all but locked that whole conference out of major college football! But because he SHUT THE HELL UP and didn’t talk about what he was doing, nobody knew anything for sure, so they couldn’t takany action to fight him on it until it was done.
Don’t get me wrong, I still don’t like the guy and I think his priorities are still off, but I’ll give him this-he does know how to conduct sensitive negotiations with discretion and tact and doesn’t beat himself. I only wish our own top brass were as capable.

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by Dogrel on Sep 18, 2012 2:51 PM EDT up reply

What a joke, any podunk lawyer would eat that hijack attempt up in court if FSU decides to leave and many have said so. Raise the bar two times in two years ....... yeah right.

If FSU decides to leave, and I think they will they will tell Swofford what to do with his buy outs.

Well to the support of you Sem…

http://www.accsports.com/articles/2012091813451/is-the-fsu-realignment-story-over.php

I think FSU should be waived from the exit fee altogether immediately and given an out tomorrow. I believe in calling people’s bluff or telling them to shut their mouths.

Yall can enjoy that green grass over in drought land.

We will mail you some cigarette money.

Syracuse and Pitt are excellent examples of another mouth to feed. FSU is second to USC in national appeal over the last few years even being down. A championship game and the Champ bowl with the SEC is a mega revenue expander for both the SEC and the Big 12.

http://www.cornnation.com/2012…-bowl-agreement

“But for schools like Florida State, the Big XII is still attractive as it may be the only opening into what could soon become a very exclusionary club.
Remember when some people thought that college football was headed towards four 16 team conferences? Well, those four conferences now have been identified. Now it’s just a matter of how many schools get to play in this new world.”

Dennis Dodd?@dennisdoddcbs

This Big 12/SEC announcement absolutely consolidates power, money in top four leagues. Sugar now mirrors Rose in tradition, money, power,

Matt Hayes?@Matt_HayesSN

Anyone who thinks this won’t lead to more expansion is nuts. It’s on the horizon—and it’s unstoppable.

Stewart Mandel?@slmandel

There may be no more official AQ/non-AQs, but there is now an unofficial line in the sand between SEC/Big 12, Big Ten/Pac-12 & everyone else

I also seriously doubt the SEC would align with the Big 12 like this if they opposed Slive in his quest to keep the playoffs to the 1-4 schools only.

http://www.operationsports.com…-xii-bowl-game/

This was what the 50 million exit fee was all about, a line in the sand, a legal dare.

I want FSU to stay in the ACC, but if they don’t want to stay then leave now!  Notre Dame will slide into FSU’s place as a full member and the ACC would be a solid 14 team Conference.

FSU in the Big 12 will be like South Carolina in the SEC.  No championships and no appearance in the new playoffs.

I highly doubt that.  FSU will be able to compete in any other league out there as would Clemson.  I’d rather stick to FSU then ND personally, but we all know where I stand on this….

Matt Hayes also reported that Notre Dame was headed to the big 12 months ago. He lost all credibility to ever think such a thing and proves he does not understand Notre Dame. Way to cite 4 month old crap with all the rest.

If Syracuse and Pitt were more mouths to feed why did they get FSU a 4 million dollar raise when the TV was renegotiated? Sounds like added value to me.

Anyhow, There is nothing that will ever make you happy Sem so for your sake I hope FSU leaves.

For FSU’s sake though I hope they stay, and they will. The people that actually RUN your school know the grass is not greener.

Say what?

“Oklahoma will see $7M a year from TV deal” That is a total of 14.5 million for what FSU is now getting 6.5 million for as the ACC has the television portion of their tier rigthts. Add in OUs other 20 million for tier one and two and a shot at 6 million for being in the champs bowl ...... nobody in the ACC can keep up with that and I am pretty sure Clemson jumps if FSU decides to overturn this thing in court. By the way maryland voted no on the 50 million also. What is up with Barker?

If OU goes to the champs bowl that is 40.5 million plus ticket sales. It is where big boy football is headed and those left out are finished.

“The University of Oklahoma’s block of branded programming on Fox Sports Net will result in upward of $7 million in new annual revenue”

https://www.sportsbusinessdail…a/Oklahoma.aspx

The ACC’s Third Tier Rights And Why They’re Killing The Conference

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/06/04/the-accs-third-tier-rights-and-why-theyre-killing-the-conference

FSU board of trustees chairman Allan Bense sees the $50 million exit fee as unenforceable and does not believe it would hold up in court. He thinks it looks like and unenforceable penalty. It looks like showdown at high noon. We don’t know at this point whether or not FSU will take their shot in court but mean while according to this the FSU administrators are continuing to look into the advantages of moving on financially.

A cost benefit analysis is still being run and FSU legal experts are looking into the legality of the new exit fee. The air of uncertainty continues.

Spetman was given a one year contract only with no raise and as the writer suggests, it seems to signal Barron might be looking for an athletic director with more experience who could navigate the rapids of conference change.

http://www.accsports.com/artic…-story-over.php

Syracuse and Pitt are excellent examples of another mouth to feed. FSU is second to USC in national appeal over the last few years even being down. A championship game and the Champ bowl with the SEC is a mega revenue expander for both the SEC and the Big 12.

http://www.cornnation.com/2012…-bowl-agreement

“But for schools like Florida State, the Big XII is still attractive as it may be the only opening into what could soon become a very exclusionary club.
Remember when some people thought that college football was headed towards four 16 team conferences? Well, those four conferences now have been identified. Now it’s just a matter of how many schools get to play in this new world.”?

Dennis Dodd?@dennisdoddcbs??This Big 12/SEC announcement absolutely consolidates power, money in top four leagues. Sugar now mirrors Rose in tradition, money, power,???

Matt Hayes?@Matt_HayesSN??Anyone who thinks this won’t lead to more expansion is nuts. It’s on the horizon—and it’s unstoppable.???

Stewart Mandel?@slmandel??There may be no more official AQ/non-AQs, but there is now an unofficial line in the sand between SEC/Big 12, Big Ten/Pac-12 & everyone else???I also seriously doubt the SEC would align with the Big 12 like this if they opposed Slive in his quest to keep the playoffs to the 1-4 schools only.

http://www.operationsports.com…-xii-bowl-game/??This was what the 50 million exit fee was all about, a line in the sand, a legal dare.

Are these the same third tier rights that sun sports dropped? Sounds like they could make FSU 10s of hundreds of dollars for the Savannah state game.

Please cite me some more 4 month old articles based on flawed assumptions.

So which court is FSU headed to? Is it found on a WVU message board?

You are not the brightest bulb so not much sense in wasting time on you. You could probably study these hard for a couple of weeks and possibly pick up a few things.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=16&f=2947&t=9376699

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=16&f=2947&t=9343224

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=16&f=2947&t=9377331