Do you realize that pining for the destruction of the ACC is going to hurt FSU? How short sighted can you be? It kills me that all this crap began with your school and its inability to get its act straight. Are yall are so stupid to see that it is going to crush FSU if it happens? You will get what you deserve I guess.
By your own admission FSU aint getting into the SEC and of course will not be in the big 10. Obviously the PAC 12 is not an option which will leave FSU stuck in the Big 12 which will be the little guy on the block filled with leftovers others didn’t want. Meanwhile your conference rivals like Carolina, VT and GT and even stinking MARYLAND will be in the Big 10 and the SEC who are obviously the two bullies on the block.
Seminole your shortsightedness is only topped by your nonsensical gifs.
Tech ain’t going anywhere unless other dominoes fall, IMHO. There is mutual interest but the man pushing the Big 10 the most in Atlanta, now works in Clemson.
Good…I am glad to hear that from a GT fan because nothing surprises me anymore.
I get it that others want to make more money. Call me crazy but I like tradition, geography and regionality. It is what made College Football great. We are losing it and are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Spare me those traditional Maryland Iowa games.
This conference could have been O.K. but it has an idiot running it who sold it out. The participants should have listened to FSU years ago when the idea was broached to get rid of Swofford. I am afraid it is collapse city at this point.
Swofford was the pioneer of all of this with VT, Miami and BC addition yet you are saying he didnt have enough vision. It was AGAINST the wishes of Carolina and Duke and FSU led the charge to do it.
You are complaining about him for doing what you are praising everyone else for doing, and what you wanted. You contradict yourself and I am not sure you realize it.
Swofford was the pioneer of all of this with VT, Miami and BC addition yet you are saying he didnt have enough vision. It was AGAINST the wishes of Carolina and Duke and FSU led the charge to do it.
You are complaining about him for doing what you are praising everyone else for doing, and what you wanted. You contradict yourself and I am not sure you realize it.
I don’t think it was his problem, either. The main problem has been WINNING. When was the last time the ACC won a BCS game against any traditional powerhouse? It has been a long time.
Wake was outclassed in their BCS game
BUT….
VT vs. Kansas, Michigan, Stanford, Auburn
Clemson vs. WVU
GT vs Iowa (Iowa’s defense was great but that was still a winnable game)
I don’t really read much about CFB biz and what Swofford is or was doing… but the bottom line is that the winning hasn’t been there.
Amen…but many on message boards want a scapegoat and make up things anyhow. It is easy to point the finger especially when you only have yourself to blame.
Agreed. FSU and Miami both saw their era of dominance end right when the league expanded. VT has been consistent, but 1-4 in BCS bowls (and a bad loss to Georgia) has hurt. Obviously the league has some inherent disadvantages with 5 or 6 very strong academic schools, for whom many basketball is No. 1, but that’s no excuse for what FSU/Miami/VT/Clemson haven’t done.
It’s not Swofford. The league can be a Top 3 conference if its big boys live up to potential. The talent down the east coast from D.C. to Miami has never been better. Parity sometimes is good, but is has hurt the ACC. The league would be much better off with 5 teams going 9-3 and 3 teams going 3-9 or 2-10 than what we have now.
I totally think the ACC is strategically positioned fine and might even be stronger with a Lousiville replacing Maryland but until someone lives up to it, UNC included, it will be an easy target.
If you had told me that the ACC would have a 3.6 billion dollar deal to put every game on tv 5 years ago, I think everyone would have been happy. Yet no one is because they think the grass is greener next door. 5 years from now I think Maryland will still be broke, and have no rivalries left.
Just like a lottery winner or pro athlete who cant handle money, you cant fix stupid and they only have their selfs to blame for their problems.
We also know that money buys happiness. It was one of the earliest lessons I learned. For Sure.
Agreed. FSU and Miami both saw their era of dominance end right when the league expanded. VT has been consistent, but 1-4 in BCS bowls (and a bad loss to Georgia) has hurt. Obviously the league has some inherent disadvantages with 5 or 6 very strong academic schools, for whom many basketball is No. 1, but that’s no excuse for what FSU/Miami/VT/Clemson haven’t done.
It’s not Swofford. The league can be a Top 3 conference if its big boys live up to potential. The talent down the east coast from D.C. to Miami has never been better. Parity sometimes is good, but is has hurt the ACC. The league would be much better off with 5 teams going 9-3 and 3 teams going 3-9 or 2-10 than what we have now.
And how exactly do the “big boys” break through that media built wall of SEC teams in the polls when we’ve played just as good if not better then? What about teams ahead of us with more losses? How do you break that? FSU and Clemson are 10 win one loss teams heading into the final week of the regular season…..what else can we do? Seriously. How much more can we do. We have no control over how crappy the rest of the teams do….
I agree with you to some extent about bias but the issue is not what the other teams have done…it is that every time YOU have shown up on the national stage previously, you have choked. Same for FSU until recent. Miami, VT, UNC, NCSU pretty much anyone. THAT is the problem. Win the orange bowl last year instead of getting blown off the map and perception is different. You can blame the ACC all day but that is a scapegoat and you know it.
