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      <title>12&#45;15 tarheels not playing</title>
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      <published>2010-09-03T09:20:29Z</published>
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        <p><a href="http://www.southernpigskin.com/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wralsportsfan.com%2Func%2Fstory%2F8235273%2F">http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/8235273/</a>
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so i guess davis was wrong and joe schad was right or very close to it.&nbsp; schad says a few more are still under consideration to be held out.
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out
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DT Austin, CB Brown, CB Burney, WR Little, DE McAdoo, DE Quinn, RB Draughns, DR Euwell, S Gupton, TB Houston, S Searcy, S Smith
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known waiting
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LB Carter, S Williams, LB Sturdivant
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i don&#8217;t see how davis&#8217;s head doesn&#8217;t roll.
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      <title>Go Hawaii thread</title>
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      <published>2010-09-02T10:47:40Z</published>
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        <p>Aloha means upset. Gooo Warriors! <img src="http://www.southernpigskin.com/images/smileys/wink.gif" width="19" height="19" alt="wink" style="border:0;" />
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      <title>pitt vs. utah</title>
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      <published>2010-09-02T19:33:38Z</published>
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        <p>no Versus here&#8230; wish i could find a stream
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      <title>&#8220;Fast like NASCAR&#8230; it goes quiet cause I&#8217;m going to fast&#8221;.</title>
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      <published>2010-09-03T10:26:28Z</published>
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        <p>Check this out&#8230; and I have to ask, how could anybody not like these guys? 
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<a href="http://www.southernpigskin.com/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FMountaineers360%3Ffeature%3Dmhum">http://www.youtube.com/user/Mountaineers360?feature=mhum</a>
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      <title>South Carolina vs Southern Miss</title>
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        <p>Watching this makes me want to puke.&nbsp; The announcers might as well send flowers to Lattimore, they are so in love with him its not even funny.&nbsp; He&#8217;s good and has power....but not as good as they are making him out to be.&nbsp; He&#8217;s a true freshman playing against a bad team, lets see how he does once he hits the Alabamas, Floridas, UGAs, etc.&nbsp; To much love then he deserves right now IMO.&nbsp; And maybe its the first game hype, but USC looks way to cocky (no pun intended).
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Been impressed with some of Southern Miss&#8217;s drives though and not impressed at all with South Carolina&#8217;s offensive line, looks horrid.&nbsp; USC&#8217;s receivers look pretty good, nice and tall.&nbsp; If the offensive line gives Garcia time they might be scary.
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      <title>So what&#8217;s up with the hurricane NC folks&#63;</title>
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      <published>2010-09-01T21:08:41Z</published>
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        <p>Everything ok for you guys?
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      <title>Week 1 games to watch, based on Pick &#8216;Em picks</title>
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      <published>2010-09-02T18:16:55Z</published>
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        <p><span style="color:green;"><i><b><u>Note:</u></b> The number beneath each team shows how many people picked that team to win.</i></span>
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<span style="font-size:16px;"><b>These would be the most competitive games to watch, based on your Pick &#8216;Em picks.</b></span>
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<span style="color:green;"><b>Flip a coin, it should be a good one:</b></span>
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Washington
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12
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BYU
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14
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<span style="color:green;"><b>I should try to catch this one on TV:</b></span>
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Minnesota
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17
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Middle Tennessee
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9
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Colorado
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17
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Colorado State
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9
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Connecticut
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9
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Michigan
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17
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Pittsburgh
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19
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Utah
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7
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<span style="font-size:16px;"><b>And here are the rest:</b></span>
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<span style="color:green;"><b>Could be interesting:</b></span>
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Northwestern
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20
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Vanderbilt
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6
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Richmond
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5
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Virginia
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21
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Villanova
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5
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Temple
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21
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Bowling Green
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5
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Troy
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21
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Boise State
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5
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Virginia Tech
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21
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Cincinnati
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21
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Fresno State
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5
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<span style="color:green;"><b>I&#8217;ll just check the ticker:</b></span>
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LSU
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22
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North Carolina
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4
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Navy
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22
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Maryland
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4
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Purdue
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4
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Notre Dame
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22
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Kentucky
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23
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Louisville
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3
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<span style="color:green;"><b>Hey, it could happen:</b></span>
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Oregon State
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2
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TCU
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24
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Southern Miss
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1
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South Carolina
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25
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Southern Methodist
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1
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Texas Tech
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25
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<span style="color:green;"><b>Forgone conclusion:</b></span>
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Elon
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0
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Duke
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26
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      <title>re: ranking vs. predictor</title>
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      <published>2010-09-02T08:33:07Z</published>
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        <p>To slightly further this discussion:
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fiercey said:
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<span style="color:green;"><i>&#8220;A “predictor” and a “ranking” are whole different animals… 
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<br />Team A might be ranked higher than Teams B, C, D, and E because of on-field accomplishments, yet Team E might be tagged by a predictor as likely to win a game vs. Team A but not vs. Teams B, C, and D. 
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<br />I’m considering tooling around with a predictor behind the scenes this year, though.&nbsp; My rankings are set up to be BCS-computer compliant (no margin of victory, etc.)… although a predictor could use whatever data I want.&nbsp; But it’s a lot of work, which is the big downer. 
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<br />What I want to see are Sagarin’s weekly rankings… why hide them?&#8221;</i></span>
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<span style="color:green;"><i>I hear this argument from others and respectfully it is nonsense.&nbsp; The main points of contention is usually the venue and MOV factors which Sagarin is able to account for with his algorythm but other systems using less sophisticated math are not.&nbsp; So since they are unable to deal with that very important factor they attempt to simply discount it.&nbsp; Because other systems simply do not account for those factors their ranking are flawed when it comes to determing how strong a team truly is.&nbsp; So when the 2 systems disagree on which team is ranked higher ie better and should win, it is usually the team ranked higher in the Sagarin system that is victorious.&nbsp; Another thing I hear from people who simply do not understand the system is that it is biased towards PAC-10 teams, which again is utter ridiculousness.</i></span>
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Well, that&#8217;s an opinion (on your part).&nbsp; If I were putting together a predictor, I would consider Team A&#8217;s rushing offense vs. Team B&#8217;s rushing defense, Team A&#8217;s passing offense vs. Team B&#8217;s passing defense, and vice versa&#8230; and these factors would get the most weight with respect to and in the microcosm of &#8220;Team A vs. Team B&#8221;.&nbsp; That&#8217;s a very simplistic way to say it, because I have further ideas on how to do it appropriately that I&#8217;m not going to get into the discussion of sharing.&nbsp; But, again, that&#8217;s an opinion (on my part).
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That said, my rankings will be published each week starting post-week 4, and they will remain on my site indefinitely (<a href="http://www.southernpigskin.com/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jwagoner.com%2Ffootball.html">www.jwagoner.com/football.html</a>).&nbsp; You&#8217;re welcome to do the footwork and compare them, as long as you put in the context that one is a ranking and one is a predictor in any published results.&nbsp; But a more apples-to-apples comparison would be my rankings vs. Sagarin&#8217;s BCS rankings.&nbsp; In the context of &#8220;rankings&#8221;, I would posit that mine did better than Sagarin&#8217;s for 2009 (again, opinion).
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-f
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    <entry>
      <title>If your smart&#8230;</title>
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      <published>2010-08-31T20:28:58Z</published>
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        <p>You will seriously consider putting your doe on Utah. Pitt is vastly overrated.... this will be their QB&#8217;s first start and they are replacing most of their offensive line. 
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Just remember I told you so&#8230;
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    <entry>
      <title>Any final score preditions tonight&#63;</title>
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        <p>South Carolina vs. Southern Miss? (24-13 USCe)
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USC vs. Hawai&#8217;i? (38-17 USCw)
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