Ok man…lets be real for a moment. This is what you call a false equivalency of scope and exactly what I mean by the blurring of the lines. What was taught to a brand new enlisted dude who is dealt with in black and white lines on an institutional scale is not how commanders at all levels doll out punishment. Discipline isn’t a flow chart and is dealt with in wide latitudes. Once again, you aren’t the SME here because you had some class 26 years ago. Leavenworth does not hold every person who ever mishandled classified and that is a preposterously silly concept. You need to recheck your pocket copy of the UCMJ.
I am gonna just make the assumption that I know more about this subject than you do…judgement on your part would be the agree with my assumption. Folks do lack judgement these days though and think that anecdotal evidence proves them right.
No wonder a reality tv star is a major party nominee…
Well for what it is worth, I really appreciate your mingling with us simple folk. I don’t know how you are able to tolerate us. It is a real testament to your tolerance of inferior minds.
Ok man…lets be real for a moment. This is what you call a false equivalency of scope and exactly what I mean by the blurring of the lines. What was taught to a brand new enlisted dude who is dealt with in black and white lines on an institutional scale is not how commanders at all levels doll out punishment. Discipline isn’t a flow chart and is dealt with in wide latitudes. Once again, you aren’t the SME here because you had some class 26 years ago. Leavenworth does not hold every person who ever mishandled classified and that is a preposterously silly concept. You need to recheck your pocket copy of the UCMJ.
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The false equivalency in the comparison is primarily that a soldier would never even be privy to the type and amount of information she put at risk, but the soldier would face punishment, legal and/or administrative, for mishandling what they had.
Yeah, you are probably right on some form of punishment but I suspect it would be of a much lesser degree than you think. Please feel free to tell me all about them Colonel.
Curggr, give it up. You are dealing with a superior intellect. Just ask him.
You save time if you put the apostrophe between the you and are.
Relax…like I said, if this is the worst you got in an argument, you need to branch out from those pussies on huffpo. They are too worried about their microaggressions to be good debaters. Sparring makes you stronger, just don’t let it get your panties in a wad.
Yeah, you are probably right on some form of punishment but I suspect it would be of a much lesser degree than you think. Please feel free to tell me all about them Colonel.
I’ll just ask you. You’re the one that said CU needs to check the UCMJ since you have it figured out. I know you didn’t see it on Facebook, so which official did you hear say that?
My crack on the UCMJ was a joke as was calling you a Colonel. Not sure what you are asking about which official so I think you misunderstood what I said.
I am telling you that wide latitudes are taken in discipline and it is not evenly applied, hence the whole sexual assault controversy in the military and the US Senate wanting to take commanders out of the loop. Punishments range from LOCs all the way up to Article 15s before they go to courts martial.
Commanders have a lot of power that often is not exercised, and very similar to Captains of the Ship but modern technology has taken some of that discretion away.
My crack on the UCMJ was a joke as was calling you a Colonel. Not sure what you are asking about which official so I think you misunderstood what I said.
I am telling you that wide latitudes are taken in discipline and it is not evenly applied, hence the whole sexual assault controversy in the military and the US Senate wanting to take commanders out of the loop. Punishments range from LOCs all the way up to Article 15s before they go to courts martial.
Commanders have a lot of power that often is not exercised, and very similar to Captains of the Ship but modern technology has taken some of that discretion away.
Man you guys don’t know when you are beat do you?
My whole response was joking. I was just a little surprised that you were offering an opinion instead of claiming superiority based on someone else’s.
See you aren’t claiming superiority by trusting the judgement of SMEs. You are claiming superiority by claiming that I like “three bags full”. You guys have a hard time with that concept. I guess it goes to your inability to self reflect and see that you are the one with the trait you are complaining about. Typical.
See you aren’t claiming superiority by trusting the judgement of SMEs. You are claiming superiority by claiming that I like “three bags full”. You guys have a hard time with that concept. I guess it goes to your inability to self reflect and see that you are the one with the trait you are complaining about. Typical.
I’m not claiming superiority at all. I was pointing out that in this thread, you made no argument other than to say “Comey says so” and then attack everyone else for not automatically marching to that drum, despite an argument presented against it. However, since you’ve reached the point of “I’m rubber, you’re glue,” there’s probably not much more to say.
So interesting that you think claiming you know more based on an Internet search than a team of investigators who spent months on the issue…yet somehow that isn’t presumptive or arrogant.
Anyhow whatever you say just bounces off me anyway. Of course I am the one who is superior weirdly enough by claiming my knowledge is not superior.
